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  • Ed P.
    Very Frequent User
    • July 31, 2002
    • 270

    67 bb T.I. distributor

    I need a good exploded view of a T.I. distributor only. I think I may be missing some parts. Under the big brass washer on the upper bushing there was nothing. No source to lube the upper bushing. Cavity was clean and painted. Thanks Ed
  • Ken A.
    Very Frequent User
    • July 31, 1986
    • 929

    #2
    Re: 67 bb T.I. distributor

    The cavity was packed with a mix of heavy grease & sawdust & the top was sealed with a special cupped white plastic washer available from CC.

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    • Wayne M.
      Expired
      • March 1, 1980
      • 6414

      #3
      Re: 67 bb T.I. distributor

      Originally posted by Ed Pearce (38494)
      I need a good exploded view of a T.I. distributor only. I think I may be missing some parts. Under the big brass washer on the upper bushing there was nothing. No source to lube the upper bushing. Cavity was clean and painted. Thanks Ed
      Ed --- as Ken has said, should be same plastic seal.

      (from 1965 Corvette shop manual, 6Y-13) --- there's an exploded view but not in the area immediately below the brass washer.
      But the text says: "K66 Disassembly . ....As a unit, remove entire magnetic pickup assy. from the distributor housing.
      Remove brass washer and felt pad
      (at overhaul) the seal is removed, add SAE 20 oil to the packing (sawdust or whatever) in the cavity. New plastic seal then required".

      I have only the lower housing of a 1111093 ('65-6 425hp BB w/K66), with the brass washer missing. The plastic seal underneath looks exactly like a non-T.I. upper bearing area.......

      But I have to admit that I'm confused by the GM parts catalog exploded drawings. Is there or is there not a felt washer on top of the white translucent plastic seal, and if yes, is this felt (also) given a drop or two of oil ? Only for points distrib's ?

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      • Ed P.
        Very Frequent User
        • July 31, 2002
        • 270

        #4
        Re: 67 bb T.I. distributor

        The T.I. cavity under the brass washer I have looks nothing like the cavity of a points distributor. The cavity is only about 1/8 inch deep if that and machined smooth. By the time I install the plastic seal there is not much room for grease. Any pics of a T.I distributor housing cavity area.This is the first T.I. distributor I have done. Have done several points distributor. Ed

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        • Joe L.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • February 1, 1988
          • 43193

          #5
          Re: 67 bb T.I. distributor

          Originally posted by Ed Pearce (38494)
          The T.I. cavity under the brass washer I have looks nothing like the cavity of a points distributor. The cavity is only about 1/8 inch deep if that and machined smooth. By the time I install the plastic seal there is not much room for grease. Any pics of a T.I distributor housing cavity area.This is the first T.I. distributor I have done. Have done several points distributor. Ed

          Ed------

          A 1962-74 TI distributor and a 1962-74 points type distributor used the same distributor housing with only these two exceptions:

          1) distributors for FI

          2) ball bearing type distributors (SERVICE-only)
          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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          • Ed P.
            Very Frequent User
            • July 31, 2002
            • 270

            #6
            Re: 67 bb T.I. distributor

            Well no wonder I am confused. I will take a pic and post it here. Ed

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            • Wayne M.
              Expired
              • March 1, 1980
              • 6414

              #7
              Re: 67 bb T.I. distributor

              Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
              Ed------

              A 1962-74 TI distributor and a 1962-74 points type distributor used the same distributor housing with only these two exceptions:

              1) distributors for FI

              2) ball bearing type distributors (SERVICE-only)



              And here's the ball bearing distr. 1111263. The stationary pole piece (magnet, coil) is fixed to the lower housing.



              c

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              • Ed P.
                Very Frequent User
                • July 31, 2002
                • 270

                #8
                Re: 67 bb T.I. distributor

                DSCF7813.jpgDSCF7812.jpgDSCF7815.jpgHere are pics of what I have. Looks like they forgot to finish the machine work of the cavity.

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                • Wayne M.
                  Expired
                  • March 1, 1980
                  • 6414

                  #9
                  Re: 67 bb T.I. distributor

                  Originally posted by Ed Pearce (38494)
                  Here are pics of what I have. Looks like they forgot to finish the machine work of the cavity.
                  Ed -- here's my "093" [dated 5_J_20 = Sept 20th, appropriate for an early '66 L72] with white/translucent plastic seal and upper brass bearing still in place. Sure does look like sawdust under there .

                  093 distr.JPG

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                  • Joe L.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • February 1, 1988
                    • 43193

                    #10
                    Re: 67 bb T.I. distributor

                    Originally posted by Ed Pearce (38494)
                    [ATTACH=CONFIG]62876[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]62877[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]62878[/ATTACH]Here are pics of what I have. Looks like they forgot to finish the machine work of the cavity.

                    Ed------

                    I don't understand this one, at all. The cavity was not machined out (except for the very top where the seal installs). The cavity was a feature of the casting, itself. Did you remove the upper bushing?

                    Also, someone has been in this distributor before. The inside surface of the housing is usually not painted and, even if it was painted, it would not be painted with a paint this thick.
                    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                    • Ed P.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • July 31, 2002
                      • 270

                      #11
                      Re: 67 bb T.I. distributor

                      Yes I removed the bushings they are worn so bad that the pole piece tips are hitting the magnet pickup. The upper bushing is real bad, I guess from no lubrication. Ed

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                      • Scott P.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • April 30, 1992
                        • 178

                        #12
                        Re: 67 bb T.I. distributor

                        Ed, isn't this a 65 housing because of the bottom oil groove not being all the way around. Scott

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                        • Joe L.
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          • February 1, 1988
                          • 43193

                          #13
                          Re: 67 bb T.I. distributor

                          Originally posted by Scott Pfuehler (20940)
                          Ed, isn't this a 65 housing because of the bottom oil groove not being all the way around. Scott

                          Scott------


                          That configuration may have been used after 1965, possibly through early 1967. However, as far as I know, that feature is unrelated to the lack of a lubrication well.
                          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                          • Ed P.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • July 31, 2002
                            • 270

                            #14
                            Re: 67 bb T.I. distributor

                            I thought the oil groove not being all the way around was big block only. Ed

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                            • Joe L.
                              Beyond Control Poster
                              • February 1, 1988
                              • 43193

                              #15
                              Re: 67 bb T.I. distributor

                              Originally posted by Ed Pearce (38494)
                              I thought the oil groove not being all the way around was big block only. Ed

                              Ed------

                              Well, the same design was actually used for VERY early small block, too. For big block, it was essentially used for only the 1965-E67 oiling system. However, it can be used on any big block. By the same token, the "full round" configuration can be used on ANY big block or small block.

                              As I mentioned, this oiling feature is not related to the lubrication well configuration. As far as I know, all 1962-74 Corvette distributors (except the ones I mentioned above) have the lubrication well. I have no explanation for the configuration of your distributor housing. Whether or not any distributors were intentionally made the way of yours, it's an extremely poor design and I would not use it as-is.
                              In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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