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  • Francis F.
    Very Frequent User
    • April 1, 1978
    • 420

    "A frame Dust shield mounting"

    Ready to mount dust shields on my "66"late
    (june 66) coupe,I was able to save one original shield from the beginning of this resto project.A I M calls for the use of staples as fastening devices,after inspection of the orig.that I have reveals my car left the factory with these units applied by rather large alum. rivets with 1/2# heads facing the engine compartment.Five alum. rivets per dust shield,inspection of the inner skirt confirms and aligns with the (5)Five rivets.It should be noted the car was registered last by N Y state in 1966,I have owned it since then,meaning it was only on the road for ten (10) years.
    My question : are there others out there ??. And what are the consequences in a judging situation.
    How unusual is this ?
    looking forward to your response...Francis
  • Edward J.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • September 15, 2008
    • 6940

    #2
    Re: "A frame Dust shield mounting"

    Francis, I myself have never seen rivets of any type holding on the upper A-arm dust shields, I think for all mid years the staple was the only method, sometime during the C3 era they started using plastic push retainers.
    New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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    • Gary B.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • February 1, 1997
      • 6979

      #3
      Re: "A frame Dust shield mounting"

      Francis,

      Like Edward, I've never seen rivets used on an A-arm dust shield on any '66 that I've judged. Absent more evidence to support the use of rivets, e.g., GM documentation or examples on Bowtie cars, I don't see how you will be successful convincing a judge that the rivets were installed on the production line. I predict you'll take a small deduct during judging.

      Gary

      Gary

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      • Francis F.
        Very Frequent User
        • April 1, 1978
        • 420

        #4
        Re: "A frame Dust shield mounting"

        pictures of my orig. dust shields,note no evidence of staple holes.the 1st photo faces eng ,aleo 2nd which is a close up of the rivet,3rd pic shows side facing wheel.I will send pics of the matching inner fender holes,which also reveals no staple holes.As you know about 12 staples should have been used to attach this shield....Francis

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        • Edward J.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • September 15, 2008
          • 6940

          #5
          Re: "A frame Dust shield mounting"

          Francis what about signs of staples holes in the wheel housing?I suppose that anything can be possible such as the production line running out of staples.
          New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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          • Gary B.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • February 1, 1997
            • 6979

            #6
            Re: "A frame Dust shield mounting"

            Originally posted by Francis Ford (1888)
            pictures of my orig. dust shields,note no evidence of staple holes.the 1st photo faces eng ,aleo 2nd which is a close up of the rivet,3rd pic shows side facing wheel.I will send pics of the matching inner fender holes,which also reveals no staple holes.As you know about 12 staples should have been used to attach this shield....Francis

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            Francis,

            Presuming the leg is not broken off, the short leg on the left side in your 3rd photo indicates the shield is correct for '67, but not for '63-'66, meaning it's been replaced.

            Gary

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            • Leif A.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • August 31, 1997
              • 3607

              #7
              Re: "A frame Dust shield mounting"

              Originally posted by Francis Ford (1888)
              pictures of my orig. dust shields,note no evidence of staple holes.the 1st photo faces eng ,aleo 2nd which is a close up of the rivet,3rd pic shows side facing wheel.I will send pics of the matching inner fender holes,which also reveals no staple holes.As you know about 12 staples should have been used to attach this shield....Francis

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              Francis,
              May be hard to discern in the attached photo but look closely and you will see two of the rivets attaching the dust shield on my June '67 L79. This car, however, has been restored so no claim to originality.
              Attached Files
              Leif
              '67 Coupe L79, M21, C60, N14, N40, J50, A31, U69, A01, QB1
              Top Flight 2017 Lone Star Regional

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              • Francis F.
                Very Frequent User
                • April 1, 1978
                • 420

                #8
                Re: "A frame Dust shield mounting"

                Edward,you are correct,I will take photos showing the mirror image of the shields staple holes found on the inner fender..also no staple holes in the wheel house,as you know the A I M calls for aprox.12 -15 were used.the inner fender also reveals the shields and staples were installed in a hurried fashion,just barely catching the inner fender.Hope to hear from others..Francis

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                • Joe R.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • July 31, 1976
                  • 4547

                  #9
                  Re: "A frame Dust shield mounting"

                  Francis,

                  Your dust shields are replacements from GM as they were available for years. If your inner fenders don't have staple holes or evidence of staple holes the inner fenders have been replaced just like the dust shields.
                  My suggestion would be to take your 66 to a chapter judging meet and some of the judges there would be glad to help you with the dust shield problem.

                  JR

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                  • Francis F.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • April 1, 1978
                    • 420

                    #10
                    Re: "A frame Dust shield mounting"

                    leif,looking at your alum. rivets look just like the one on my shield,also , Gary Beaupre brings out an interesting aspect to my story,the use of a 67 style dust shield on my near" end of run for 1966 cars".I have a few other anomalies with this corvette,one being the style (67)master cylinder along with the "67" style front and rear fluid lines ,Ive been told they are not correct for this year/run car.With all due respect I can only say I have documentation of ownership back to 1976,last registration period.As you may know my 66 left the factory and went directly to the G M losAngles zone office,for what ever that may be worth.I would be very much interested in any other owners with serial numbers near or around my car (#123415) June 5th"66" thanks ..Francis

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                    • Francis F.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • April 1, 1978
                      • 420

                      #11
                      Re: "A frame Dust shield mounting"

                      Leif, my rivets are in the EXACT same location as yours,(67).with the additional blank hole above the center rivet...Francis

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                      • Gary B.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • February 1, 1997
                        • 6979

                        #12
                        Re: "A frame Dust shield mounting"

                        Francis,

                        My '66 has a July 20 build date and it doesn't have any '67 items on it to the best of my knowledge. Joe Lucia might be able to tell us when the '67 A-arm dust shield came into existence and how much in advance of the '67 model year that happened.

                        By the way, is the frame stencil on your '66 visible and original? I'm always looking for original '66 frame stencils to add to my research database.

                        Gary

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                        • Russ S.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • April 30, 1982
                          • 2161

                          #13
                          Re: "A frame Dust shield mounting"

                          Also, if they came from the factory like that I would expect them to have blackout on the rivets.

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                          • Francis F.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • April 1, 1978
                            • 420

                            #14
                            Re: "A frame Dust shield mounting"

                            Gary,thanks for your input,and my frame stencil is not visible..
                            Francis

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                            • Francis F.
                              Very Frequent User
                              • April 1, 1978
                              • 420

                              #15
                              Re: "A frame Dust shield mounting"

                              inner fender skirt,DSC02227.jpgDSC02228.jpgDSC02229.jpgDSC02231.jpg
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