Details, please? I was not privy to the announcement.
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Re: New Upcoming Exterior Paint Judging Changes
Too many details to type in here. Here are a few.
The left side of the chart is unchanged, either zero deduct or 20%.
The right side of the chart is either 30%, 70% or 100% deductions. The 50% has been eliminated. The 30% helps the owner that has taken extra steps where the 70% is for the owner only with door jam dulling. The 100% is unchanged.
If you have an opportunity to attend on of the schools it will be worth it. If you are at the National Tom Ames will be doing a school. The class drives down into the process to determine the 30% or the 70%.
The new chart takes affect August 2016 after the National.
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Why can't the new chart be posted here???Comment
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It was my belief (obviously wrong!) that over the past five years or so, NCRS had gotten the paint judging process to the point where everyone
knew what to expect on Judging Day. Any idea of what was so wrong that we are re-inventing the wheel?Comment
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The new process actually helps the owner that took extra time, effort and money to get closer to factory application but didn't get there. If you find some orange peel, some dulling on the valances your done judging the paint. Don't open the doors, it's a 30% deduction. For the owner who just took some hairspray on the jams ( bad example ) to dull them, he is now at a 70% deduction.
I think it much more fair to the owner who made a better attempt to have a factory application.
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I for one think this is a reasonable change since real lacquer is getting tougher to find. Just my 2 cents and yes it will help me when and if I ever have mine prepared for judging.
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Anything would be an improvement, but the one thing that didn't change (and I was in the paint seminar when Dave went over it recently at the Lone Star regional) was that the subjectivity of what color a judge is seeing is still there.Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New MexicoComment
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So you are happy that the possibility that your base coat/clear coat/urethane paint deduction now carries a possibility of getting a 30% deduction instead of a 50% deduction (as I now understand it to be)? Can I ask what we've done to assist the owner who went to a neighboring state to buy his metallic lacquer and painted his car with it? Are we going to make some sort of allowance because his painter had some problems with the "flowout" of the metallic and it's uneven or ? Sounds to me like a reward for those who believe in the "how we wish it had been delivered" standard as opposed to "as delivered". After 40 years, change the standard.Comment
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The new Paint Judging flow chart was shown in Lakeland, to my knowledge....So, why then such a secret here, where all 300+/- active DB members can discuss it..? Thoughts that it will "corrupt" the paint judging processes early? You'd think the members would be a part of the change and help ease it in....Comment
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I am quite pleased given the fact that circumstances beyond our control have basically outlawed the lacquer needed to do the job like the factory. I also believe that the standards on paint need to be revised to reflect the lack of availability of correct metallic paint in a lot of instances. I further believe that even the factory metallics were not all that consistent. Paint can be VERY subjective regardless.
Frankly I would like to see a top flight award where a strong exception is made for paint. Kinda like a Bowtie car that is eligible for 1,2,3,4, or 5 stars. A 4 star bowtie award is still pretty darn special but can still receive a bowtie award with non original paint.
IMHO, for the NCRS to survive, they need to come up with creative judging and award solutions to account for paint and other parts that are unobtainable. Maybe a silver, gold, or platinum Top flight. Exceptions should only be made on stuff that is unobtainable at virtually any price.
Yes you can make BB/CC look a lot like lacquer but it still is NOT lacquer. If lacquer were available a lot of us could and would do the same quality paint in our garage as the factory.
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