1963 wrong motor

[David H.]

Anyone want to jump in and confirm or expand on what I have found out about
a 1963 Convertible that I have found for sale, feel free.

Stamped engine number is "K0508FB"
Appears to me to be built in Ontario plant on May 8, 1969 for either a Camaro or Firebird.
The number behind the drivers side head is "3956618" indicating a '69 Chevy 327, 235 hp.

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[Michael J.]

Re: 1963 wrong motor

Looks like a nice NOM '63. Hope they don't want too much for it or represent it as something else. Is the trim tag OK?

[Michael W.]

Re: 1963 wrong motor

My books show FB as being for a full size car, 327/235 w/2bbl and powerglide.

[Joe L.]

Re: 1963 wrong motor

Anyone want to jump in and confirm or expand on what I have found out about
a 1963 Convertible that I have found for sale, feel free.

Stamped engine number is "K0508FB"
Appears to me to be built in Ontario plant on May 8, 1969 for either a Camaro or Firebird.
The number behind the drivers side head is "3956618" indicating a '69 Chevy 327, 235 hp.

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Dave------


The engine was, indeed, assembled at McKinnon Industries (GM, St. Catherines, ONT) on May 8, 1968. It was originally installed in a full size passenger car, probably assembled in Canada. It started out as a 235 HP 327 with 2 barrel carb installed in a Powerglide-equipped passenger car. Most likely, it is equipped with GM #3927185 cylinder heads. Assuming it currently has a 4 barrel carb, then the intake manifold has been replaced.

While completely non-original, this engine should provide performance approximately equal to the 1963 base engine. What sort of PCV system does the engine have?

[David H.]

Re: 1963 wrong motor

Thanks all for your input.
Joe, if you are asking if it has the blow pipe off the back of the engine, no it does not.
It does have the double hump heads and 4 bbl.Very clean underneath and interior. Knock off wheels.
Any estimates of what I should pay for it?

[Joe L.]

Re: 1963 wrong motor

Thanks all for your input.
Joe, if you are asking if it has the blow pipe off the back of the engine, no it does not.
It does have the double hump heads and 4 bbl.Very clean underneath and interior. Knock off wheels.
Any estimates of what I should pay for it?

David-------

I was not referring to a ventilator system with fitting on the left rear of the engine. Given the casting number, your engine could not have that sort of system (although it is possible to modify the block and "jury rig" a roughly similar system). Nevertheless, the engine has to have some sort of crankcase ventilation system. From one of your pictures here, I can see part of that system. It appears that at least part of the 68+ style system was utilized as evidenced by the 69+ style valve covers and hose to the right side valve cover. However, I still don't understand how a complete PCV system was achieved using the original style air cleaner. I can see where the crankcase vapors are removed from the engine (i.e. hose on right side), but I can't see where ventilating air is introduced to the engine. Is there a hose on the left side valve cover?

[John D.]

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David, If you just want a driver the car is fine. Nice looking interior. Needs a red steering wheel and seat belts.
Knockoffs are a minus factor as I am sure you know. But at least today affordable repro wheels are available if you want them.
The engine is a major minus factor.
Is the red '63 the correct shade of red?
Original red has quite a bit of orange in it. Course hard to tell here on a PC. As far as value I have no idea. John

[Gene M.]

Re: 1963 wrong motor

Looks like a nice driver. Going down the road at 65 mph nobody can see the replaced engine. Missing spare tire, bucket and lid but the exhaust looks new and the suspension appears maintenance has occurred.

[David H.]

Re: 1963 wrong motor

Joe, I have not been back to see the car again as yet but do have plans to. I will look to the left side of the engine to find out. Thanks for your input.