66 trim tag, Real?

[William B.]

Please review, I question this?trim tag.jpg

[Larry M.]

Re: 66 trim tag, Real?

Bill:

I am okay with what I see. I would need a higher magnification/resolution to determine if it was non-original plate and stampings as defined in Sinor's and Grenning's Trim Tag Book.

Research might also show that the H04 date and the Body Build Number do not correlate, but this takes research and comparison to other known original cars. I don't have this info readily available, but Grenning (and likely others) do.

Let's see what others say.

Larry

[Bill L.]

Re: 66 trim tag, Real?

Bill:

I am okay with what I see. I would need a higher magnification/resolution to determine if it was non-original plate and stampings as defined in Sinor's and Grenning's Trim Tag Book.

Research might also show that the H04 date and the Body Build Number do not correlate, but this takes research and comparison to other known original cars. I don't have this info readily available, but Grenning (and likely others) do.

Let's see what others say.

Larry

I agree with Larry --- overall no issues but a magnified view would really help.... AL & Roy have some specifics in the book that Larry mentioned and you can get a better idea by doing that comparison....

That said --- "one" area of comparison is the "C" in "Chevrolet" along the bottom of the tag.... magnified it shows two "teeth" (flaws actually) at the top and bottom of the opening ---

Here is an example from a real tag.....

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This exact flaw is pointed out in the trim tag book....

Hope this helps a bit...

Regards
Bill

[John D.]

Re: 66 trim tag, Real?

Make this thread into a survey and I'd vote yes....

[William G.]

Re: 66 trim tag, Real?

Can't tell for sure without a very hi res photo but I can tell you that the H04 St Louis convertible body build date (April 4) and body sequence number S5753 are in perfect synch. I have a large database of 65-67 VIN vs body numbers and this tag is right there. Bill Gould

[William B.]

Re: 66 trim tag, Real?

I have this tag as a cell phone text and I can enlarge it. If you refer to Al Grennings book it appears to be fake. I do not know how to post it so others can enlarge. If someone could help repost it larger, please send me a pm

[Bill L.]

Re: 66 trim tag, Real?

I have this tag as a cell phone text and I can enlarge it. If you refer to Al Grennings book it appears to be fake. I do not know how to post it so others can enlarge. If someone could help repost it larger, please send me a pm

Bill ---

Sent you a PM ....

Bill

[Bill L.]

Re: 66 trim tag, Real?

HI:

This is a "higher" resolution photo of the trim tag that Bill Bryan asked about in his original post.

Not sure if it will help --- but take a look...

Regards
Bill

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[Ara G.]

Re: 66 trim tag, Real?

Buy the trim tag book from the NCRS. There are SO many known aberrations with original tags that once you see about 9 of them you can feel confident it's a real tag. I always go to the "tooth" in the C from Chevrolet as Bill posted and the T in Paint. Just the easiest ones to check first. If they aren't there, walk. ARA

[William G.]

Re: 66 trim tag, Real?

Don't forget that it is possible to restamp a real GM blank trim tag, so to authenticate one must look at the "factory stamped"characters. Bill Gould

[William B.]

Re: 66 trim tag, Real?

I call it a fake, was thinking some one here could 2nd my conclusion. When it is enlarged you see no aberrations around the factory stamped numbers, not referring the original tag stamped numbers.

[David L.]

Re: 66 trim tag, Real?

Enclosed is a couple of photos of my 1966 Corvette trim tag. I bought the car in 1979.

Dave

[Wayne M.]

Re: 66 trim tag, Real?

FWIW here's an extreme close-up of an early '65 VIN tag, off car 01497 (convertible body S505); weathered and all, as it was photographed in a boneyard in WA state. You can see the stress marks around certain data stamped at the factory (like the '9', and the 'D' in STD). The lighting angle is critical in exposing these.

[Bill L.]

Re: 66 trim tag, Real?

Bill:

One thing you might do is try to see if there are some local members who might be able to get a second set of eyes on this car ----

If you really have some significant heart burn with the car you can do as Ara suggested and just walk away ----

On the other hand if you feel it is worth pursuing then another first hand opinion will help quite a bit---in fact it might put you on one side or the other with regard to the car and its "total authenticity" so to speak....

However, if you are going to only pursue the trim tag route then a photo of the quality that Wayne M. offered is going to be the real acid test-----

Just my two cents....

Regards
Bill

[William B.]

Re: 66 trim tag, Real?

I am convinced the tag is fake, will not purchase, it is built up to be a red/black, 425hp, When looking at old vettes it is always "Buyer Beware"