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  • Frank D.
    Expired
    • December 27, 2007
    • 2703

    #16
    Re: 62 Leaf Springs

    None other than John Hinckley in this old CF thread where I worked my way through the restoration process; here is what he said:
    C1 & C2 Corvettes - C1 leaf springs for the '61 - I discovered that my '61 (although it rides and sits just fine) has nom-OEM leaf springs on it. They are 3-leaf springs (from God knows what) and one of the leaves on the passenger side is cracked. Sooooo I scored some original C1 springs from a forum member that he...

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    • Eric E.
      Very Frequent User
      • November 1, 1998
      • 254

      #17
      Re: 62 Leaf Springs

      Originally posted by Frank Dreano (48332)
      None other than John Hinckley in this old CF thread where I worked my way through the restoration process; here is what he said:
      http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/...post1578354296
      Thanks Frank, that's another bookmarked page in my collection!
      On a quick glance I think I have one that specs about right and one that is flatter. The only visible mark on the good one is E2 but there is a lot of cleaning to do. After I take them apart I will have a better clue what I have. Eric

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      • Frank D.
        Expired
        • December 27, 2007
        • 2703

        #18
        Re: 62 Leaf Springs

        Look the springs over carefully Eric....one of my long springs had a hairline crack at the center bolt hole that I almost missed. A very fine hairline break and I was likely to catch it before I stuck it back on the car...

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        • Eric E.
          Very Frequent User
          • November 1, 1998
          • 254

          #19
          Re: 62 Leaf Springs

          Originally posted by Frank Dreano (48332)
          Look the springs over carefully Eric....one of my long springs had a hairline crack at the center bolt hole that I almost missed. A very fine hairline break and I was likely to catch it before I stuck it back on the car...
          I will have to examine them closely. It will be interesting to see what the individual springs look like when they are separated. I am not sure how available pieces like that are but I am sure I will need a few. I am sure they have never been apart since they have the original "Chicago - Signode" bands on them. Funny thing is that I worked for them about 25 years ago.

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          • Ian G.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • September 3, 2007
            • 1114

            #20
            Re: 62 Leaf Springs

            Mine were shot. rusted almost half way through at the bolt hole. I got a good pair of 62's and salvaged my bottom spring which had minimal pitting. Hopefully yours are better.

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            • Eric E.
              Very Frequent User
              • November 1, 1998
              • 254

              #21
              Re: 62 Leaf Springs

              Originally posted by Ian Gaston (47813)
              Mine were shot. rusted almost half way through at the bolt hole. I got a good pair of 62's and salvaged my bottom spring which had minimal pitting. Hopefully yours are better.
              Tomorrow is tear down day.... I will know what I have soon. And I know I will be shopping for something.

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              • Joe L.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • February 1, 1988
                • 43193

                #22
                Re: 62 Leaf Springs

                Originally posted by Eric Eade (31337)
                Tomorrow is tear down day.... I will know what I have soon. And I know I will be shopping for something.

                Eric-------


                Once-upon-a-time, individual leaves for many leaf springs were available from GM. Unfortunately, they're long-since discontinued. I don't know if individual leaves are available in the aftermarket today. If anyone has them, though, I would expect it would be Eaton Detroit Spring.
                In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                • Eric E.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • November 1, 1998
                  • 254

                  #23
                  Re: 62 Leaf Springs

                  Unfortunately the result was not the best.

                  The one spring that still had decent arch measured 5 1/4" and while the main spring and fourth leaf didn't look too bad, both the second and third leaf had considerable pitting and rust erosion. The other spring asst measured 3 1/2" arch and had slight corrosion but all four pieces are lacking arch.

                  Thanks for all your help but it looks like its its time to start searching for replacements.
                  Attached Files

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                  • Joe L.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • February 1, 1988
                    • 43193

                    #24
                    Re: 62 Leaf Springs

                    Originally posted by Eric Eade (31337)
                    Unfortunately the result was not the best.

                    The one spring that still had decent arch measured 5 1/4" and while the main spring and fourth leaf didn't look too bad, both the second and third leaf had considerable pitting and rust erosion. The other spring asst measured 3 1/2" arch and had slight corrosion but all four pieces are lacking arch.

                    Thanks for all your help but it looks like its its time to start searching for replacements.

                    Eric-------


                    The corrosion on the 2 leaves pictured is too severe for continued use. It may even be the root cause of the leaf arch recession.
                    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                    • Eric E.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • November 1, 1998
                      • 254

                      #25
                      Re: 62 Leaf Springs

                      Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
                      Eric-------


                      The corrosion on the 2 leaves pictured is too severe for continued use. It may even be the root cause of the leaf arch recession.
                      Joe, I will be looking for a pair of spring assemblies or at least a suitable pair of new springs until I can find an original set.
                      I agree, these are too far gone. Eric

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                      • Frank D.
                        Expired
                        • December 27, 2007
                        • 2703

                        #26
                        Re: 62 Leaf Springs

                        Yes - you are right in not trying to resurrect those -- too far gone...
                        Fuelie Dave has 3-4 pair of later C1 leaf springs all priced around $1,000 and date coded:


                        Look all the way down near the bottom of the page on the left....they look to be restored but you'll have to
                        decide how 'correct' you want to be vis a vis date codes, rebound clip crimp, etc..

                        I would do one of these sets before I paid 'double' for a repro set to run with followed by laying out cash for an original pair...
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                        • Bill M.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • April 1, 1977
                          • 1386

                          #27
                          Re: 62 Leaf Springs

                          A few comments on C1 leaf spring corrosion:

                          The most important surface is the top surface of the main leaf.

                          The top surface is the tension side (bottom is compression) and is where a fatigue crack is most likely to start, so major corrosion damage on this surface is not good. Other surfaces are not as critical.

                          The main leaf controls rear axle position on a C1 and a broken main leaf can be a major safety issue.

                          The springs are designed so that the main leaf is the strongest. You want secondary leaves to fail first and be a warning. So you want the main leaf to have the least corrosion to maintain that designed-in failure mode progression for safety reasons.

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                          • Loren S.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • November 1, 2002
                            • 172

                            #28
                            Re: 62 Leaf Springs

                            Fuelie Dave has some nice stuff and that price is fair market value; nonetheless that is a lot of extra coin just to get grooved springs and a code/date that might be obscured when installed, when new springs are $300 for a pair. But if the new springs end up sitting too high, then I guess that is a consideration, given how important stance is to the look of a car. If you don't care about loosing a few points, another option would be the composite monosprings from Vette Brakes & Products.

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                            • Eric E.
                              Very Frequent User
                              • November 1, 1998
                              • 254

                              #29
                              Re: 62 Leaf Springs

                              Originally posted by Bill Mashinter (1350)
                              A few comments on C1 leaf spring corrosion:

                              The most important surface is the top surface of the main leaf.

                              The top surface is the tension side (bottom is compression) and is where a fatigue crack is most likely to start, so major corrosion damage on this surface is not good. Other surfaces are not as critical.

                              The main leaf controls rear axle position on a C1 and a broken main leaf can be a major safety issue.

                              The springs are designed so that the main leaf is the strongest. You want secondary leaves to fail first and be a warning. So you want the main leaf to have the least corrosion to maintain that designed-in failure mode progression for safety reasons.


                              The majority of the corrosion was on the 2nd and 3rd leaves rather han the main leaves and that would explain the breakdown on the most fatigued set to the 2nd leaf which was broken.

                              It might be conceivable to continue to clean and examine both main leaves and if they are satisfactory, get them re-arched. However to make the pair usable I would have to find replacements for at least three, if not four minor leaves.

                              I have looked at the ones from Fuelie Dave and others listed in the Driveline but it seams that it would be a premium to pay for springs that do not match the date range of my car. While it would be nice to have the date range, often it is hidden.

                              still considering options. Thanks....

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                              • Frank D.
                                Expired
                                • December 27, 2007
                                • 2703

                                #30
                                Re: 62 Leaf Springs

                                Well my friend -- Carlisle is not that far off

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