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  • Chris H.
    Very Frequent User
    • April 1, 2000
    • 837

    427 Push Rod Design

    Was considering replacing the original push rods with Crane's OEM replacements. I noticed the tip designs were different. The Chevy pushrods have a "cup" at the end where the Crane's do not.

    I would like to use the Cranes as it's a one piece design, etc, but am concerned that the Crane design is not compatible with the Chevy lifter and rocker.

    Am I being being overly concerned?

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    1969 Riverside Gold Coupe, L71, 14,000 miles. Top Flight, 2 Star Bowtie.
  • Joe C.
    Expired
    • August 31, 1999
    • 4598

    #2
    Re: 427 Push Rod Design

    Originally posted by Chris Hewitt (33863)
    Was considering replacing the original push rods with Crane's OEM replacements. I noticed the tip designs were different. The Chevy pushrods have a "cup" at the end where the Crane's do not.

    I would like to use the Cranes as it's a one piece design, etc, but am concerned that the Crane design is not compatible with the Chevy lifter and rocker.

    Am I being being overly concerned?

    Yes you are.
    The new pushrod has more contact area than the old one which has a pressed in hardened tip.

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    • Joe L.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • February 1, 1988
      • 43193

      #3
      Re: 427 Push Rod Design

      Originally posted by Chris Hewitt (33863)
      Was considering replacing the original push rods with Crane's OEM replacements. I noticed the tip designs were different. The Chevy pushrods have a "cup" at the end where the Crane's do not.

      I would like to use the Cranes as it's a one piece design, etc, but am concerned that the Crane design is not compatible with the Chevy lifter and rocker.

      Am I being being overly concerned?


      Chris------


      Are these 7/16" or 3/8" pushrods?
      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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      • Chris H.
        Very Frequent User
        • April 1, 2000
        • 837

        #4
        Re: 427 Push Rod Design

        Joe, 7/16ths. My concern is the Chevy tips seem to have a larger "funnel" than the Crane tips. I'm concerned that not enough oil will get pushed up the Crane rod to the rocker.
        1969 Riverside Gold Coupe, L71, 14,000 miles. Top Flight, 2 Star Bowtie.

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        • Jerry M.
          Very Frequent User
          • March 1, 1978
          • 147

          #5
          Re: 427 Push Rod Design

          Chris,

          Chevy offered a set of pushrods through their Chevy Power catalog that looked a lot like these when we built my '66 427/425 around ten years ago or so. One piece design without the traditional hardened tips. Four pushrods wound up wearing down and basically started to disintegrate in short order.

          Replaced them with traditional design and no problems since.

          You really don't want this problem.
          Jerry

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          • Chris H.
            Very Frequent User
            • April 1, 2000
            • 837

            #6
            Re: 427 Push Rod Design

            Joe, I was mistaken, they're 3/8ths.
            1969 Riverside Gold Coupe, L71, 14,000 miles. Top Flight, 2 Star Bowtie.

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            • Joe L.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • February 1, 1988
              • 43193

              #7
              Re: 427 Push Rod Design

              Originally posted by Chris Hewitt (33863)
              Joe, I was mistaken, they're 3/8ths.

              Chris------


              Good. The 7/16" pushrods were originally used only for 1969 L-88 and ZL-1. I do not recommend their retrofit to any other big block.

              Both the Crane and GM pushrods you picture are what's called "180 degree" pushrods. That means the tip is designed to operate through a 180 degree arc. This is sufficient for the vast majority of applications. Welded ball type pushrods, used on many later engine applications, are "270 degree" pushrods.
              In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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              • Mark E.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • April 1, 1993
                • 4498

                #8
                Re: 427 Push Rod Design

                How to Hotrod Big-block Chevys has a pictorial history of the various factory push rods and PNs. If I was in town I would refer to it and give you a more useful reply.
                Mark Edmondson
                Dallas, Texas
                Texas Chapter

                1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
                1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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                • Chris H.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • April 1, 2000
                  • 837

                  #9
                  Re: 427 Push Rod Design

                  Thanks Mark, I actually have that Book. I'll check it out when I get home tonight.
                  1969 Riverside Gold Coupe, L71, 14,000 miles. Top Flight, 2 Star Bowtie.

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                  • Mark E.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • April 1, 1993
                    • 4498

                    #10
                    Re: 427 Push Rod Design

                    I installed Crane push rods in my LS-5 a couple years ago, and the engine seems happy.

                    Your L71 is a different animal, of course.
                    Mark Edmondson
                    Dallas, Texas
                    Texas Chapter

                    1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
                    1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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