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  • Donald H.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • November 2, 2009
    • 2580

    #16
    Re: 66 black tie strap to hood cable & hardness on firewall question

    As you said, AIM page UPC 12 sheet A9 clearly shows the coil + wires inside the tie/strap and then excess looped and taped. My guess is that this page represents installation on a base car (no options), so there would be no top ignition shield to contend with and enough slack in the wires to loop and wrap.

    I would suspect that if the radio ignition shielding were added, then the tech would have removed the tape to provide necessary slack in the wires to fit under the upper shielding.

    I went to the RPO U69 (radio) AIM section to see if that was called out, but noting there.
    Don Harris
    Current: 67 convertible Marina Blue L79
    Former: 60 Red/Red, 2x4, 245hp (Regional and National Top Flight 2013), 66 coupe Nassau Blue, L79 (Chapter and Regional Top Flight 2017)

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    • Leif A.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • August 31, 1997
      • 3607

      #17
      Re: 66 black tie strap to hood cable & hardness on firewall question

      Originally posted by Donald Harris (51003)
      I do not have the pink wires taped. I actually forgot about the tape. I'll have to see if I have enough slack to add it. Thanks for pointing it out. I suspect an experienced judge would have caught it
      IIRC the friction tape was only used on cars equipped with TI.
      Leif
      '67 Coupe L79, M21, C60, N14, N40, J50, A31, U69, A01, QB1
      Top Flight 2017 Lone Star Regional

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      • Richard M.
        Super Moderator
        • August 31, 1988
        • 11302

        #18
        Re: 66 black tie strap to hood cable & hardness on firewall question

        The AIM shows the tape on the std points ignition on a base car and also in the K66 TI UPC page. All engine option UPC pages make no mention of removing it so I'd have to think it existed for all engine configurations, as well as for U69 radio. The wire is close to the shield but can clear it with careful placement.

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        • Richard M.
          Super Moderator
          • August 31, 1988
          • 11302

          #19
          Re: 66 black tie strap to hood cable & hardness on firewall question

          Although a 1967 referenced post, images of the AIM pages can be seen here.

          https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthre...759#post791759

          The entire thread starts HERE with much pertaining to 1966 also, in particular the infamous clip rearward of the master cylinder under the cowl gutter area.

          Rich

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          • Randy R.
            Very Frequent User
            • March 1, 1983
            • 477

            #20
            Re: 66 black tie strap to hood cable & hardness on firewall question

            The photo is very helpful. Thank you for posting it. Are the following correct?

            Strap 1 holds the hood cable and wiring harness
            Strap 2 holds the hood cable, harness, washer hose from bottle and washer hose to left nozzle
            Strap 3 holds the harness and washer hose from bottle
            Strap 4 holds the harness and washer hose from bottle

            Is the wire to the backup switch held by strap 2?

            Thanks again,
            Randy


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            • Donald H.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • November 2, 2009
              • 2580

              #21
              Re: 66 black tie strap to hood cable & hardness on firewall question

              Originally posted by Randy Renfandt (6423)
              The photo is very helpful. Thank you for posting it. Are the following correct?

              Strap 1 holds the hood cable and wiring harness
              Strap 2 holds the hood cable, harness, washer hose from bottle and washer hose to left nozzle
              Strap 3 holds the harness and washer hose from bottle
              Strap 4 holds the harness and washer hose from bottle

              Is the wire to the backup switch held by strap 2?

              Thanks again,
              Randy


              am
              If your referring to the picture in my post #8 above:

              Yes, I have strap #1 holding only wiring harness to the hood cable

              I have strap #2 holding the wiring harness that comes through the dash (NOT including the backup light switch wiring) to ONLY the washer hoses (all three). I do not have this clip around the hood cable. The backup light switch wiring is routed through the clip on the firewall only.

              Yes to your questions about strap 3 and 4.

              Please note these are my interpretation of the AIM pages, so no guarantee of correctness!!
              Don Harris
              Current: 67 convertible Marina Blue L79
              Former: 60 Red/Red, 2x4, 245hp (Regional and National Top Flight 2013), 66 coupe Nassau Blue, L79 (Chapter and Regional Top Flight 2017)

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              • Randy R.
                Very Frequent User
                • March 1, 1983
                • 477

                #22
                Re: 66 black tie strap to hood cable & hardness on firewall question

                Thank you. The correct installation of the straps in this area had me stumped.

                Randy

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                • Rob M.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • April 30, 2003
                  • 657

                  #23
                  Specific Pic Request

                  All,
                  Just back from the Nationals (good time, great cars and better friends). And, starting on the "punch list" for bettering the '66 (small block). I was told that there are 6 T-strap ties on the firewall and the TI&JM calls them out and gives the pages in the AIM where they are located. However, the AIM pages and illustrations are not very clear as to what exactly is held by each T-strap. The 3 on the passenger side I think I have correctly, however the 2 +1 on the driver's side not as much. Does anyone have a clear photo of the location and what is contained by each T-strap on the driver's side of the firewall? I would appreciate it.
                  Thanks!

                  PS - where can one find the t-straps that are more pliable like the originals (not stiff)? I have some of both, but no more soft ones.
                  Rob

                  '66 327/300 Regional Top Flt
                  '08 6 speed coupe

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                  • Edward J.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • September 15, 2008
                    • 6940

                    #24
                    Re: 66 black tie strap to hood cable & hardness on firewall question

                    Rob, I brought this thread for you. I this is all the info you will need. Ed
                    New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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                    • Edward J.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • September 15, 2008
                      • 6940

                      #25
                      Re: Specific Pic Request

                      Rob I brought a post from Rich M. to the top.
                      New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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                      • Mike B.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • July 31, 1994
                        • 838

                        #26
                        Re: 66 black tie strap to hood cable & hardness on firewall question

                        Hello Guys,

                        I've enjoyed this thread. Thanks to Rich and Don for their photos on the subject. They'll definitely help me when I reassemble my '66's firewall wiring, cable, and hoses. Here's a small contribution. It's a file shot I grabbed away from NCRS that some of you may not have seen. The photo here is from another '66 427 390hp w/AC like mine that's just 33 cars after mine. Said to be a survivor car? This will surely help me and other fellow small and big block with AC car owners in the original routing of their AC vacuum hoses near the right side hood release bracket. I wish I had more of this particular car, but it's the only one that was there. But it's huge to me.

                        I've got some other shots of my buddy's unrestored non-AC '66 coupe. As soon as I find them I'll post them here. Mike

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                        • John F.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • March 23, 2008
                          • 2395

                          #27
                          Re: Specific Pic Request

                          Rob, pics are off of my 64, but not sure what wires are contained. One strap is near the w/w and the other two are above the brake booster.
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                          • Rob M.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • April 30, 2003
                            • 657

                            #28
                            Re: 66 black tie strap to hood cable & hardness on firewall question

                            Ed,
                            Thank you very much! This is a great thread that I missed in searching the archives. One question that I have is related to the wire group that is routed through the firewall. Is it correct to have the tach and speedo cables routed behind the wires (closer to the firewall)? or in front of them?
                            Rob
                            Rob

                            '66 327/300 Regional Top Flt
                            '08 6 speed coupe

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                            • Rob M.
                              Very Frequent User
                              • April 30, 2003
                              • 657

                              #29
                              Re: 66 black tie strap to hood cable & hardness on firewall question

                              Don,
                              If I am reading the AIM correctly, should the pink coil wires be incorporated with the harness and hood cable by the inboard tie on the passenger side? You photo has them out.
                              Rob

                              '66 327/300 Regional Top Flt
                              '08 6 speed coupe

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