1963 radio grounds.

[Richard G.]

[Alan D.]

Re: 1963 radio grounds.

The grounds and capacitors are associated with U65 & U69, radio stuff.
You will see that the accelerator rod does not show any lock or star washer, just 448645 screw to secure the strap.
Long time point of argument , just leave it as is if any point deduction that would be a surprise

[Edward J.]

Re: 1963 radio grounds.

Rich, Alan is correct, being a member here on the TDB , I have learned, leave the car as you believe what is correct. and forget what every body else may say is correct and that goes for the JM as there are some Era's as many here believe. 63 data still unfolds to this day. and there where so many changes through out 63 it seems no one can pin exact dates on some of the changes, to many chiefs and not enough indians. All members involved with 63/64 manuals sometimes cannot come to agree on what, when and where.

[Frank D.]

Re: 1963 radio grounds.

Rich, Alan is correct, being a member here on the TDB , I have learned, leave the car as you believe what is correct. and forget what every body else may say is correct and that goes for the JM as there are some Era's as many here believe. 63 data still unfolds to this day. and there where so many changes through out 63 it seems no one can pin exact dates on some of the changes, to many chiefs and not enough indians. All members involved with 63/64 manuals sometimes cannot come to agree on what, when and where.

Truer words were never spoken.

I've recently looked at a 63 convertible that has never left Winter Garden, FL -- a one owner car...serial number in the high-300s. A survivor by any stretch of the definition. Sooo many things vary from what the JG and 'experts' say I won't even go into it all.

[Timothy B.]

Re: 1963 radio grounds.

It's possible the bolt could be original but my feeling is it's from somewhere else on the car. My November car had a bolt with 3/8 across the flats and no lock or star washer. The threaded end had a taper with a little space cut out to allow a thread cut.

Your bolt looks to me like it could go to the hood stay to hood or maybe the accelerator pedal rod support that bolts to the firewall just above the bellhousing.

I am not saying it couldn't be the original, how far do the threads stick through on the other side. Also, on my car the ground strap holes at the crossmember were used as I seem to remember the remains of the strap.

[Alan D.]

Re: 1963 radio grounds.

Here is an original from a Mar 64 car, head has a triangle on it.
Lever has no signs of any lock washer of any kind (strap is repo)

[Richard G.]

Re: 1963 radio grounds.

A picture of the throttle arm (as found) and the reproduction part the vendor sells.
Since the as found part is good im leaving it that way.
I will get a better picture of the bolt and the length later today.

[Richard G.]

Re: 1963 radio grounds.

Adding some more pictures;
December 1963 Car

[Timothy B.]

Re: 1963 radio grounds.

Is the bolt 7/16 across the flats, if so my guess is that it's from some where else. The copper strap looks like someone soldered the copper from the pics.

[Alan D.]

Re: 1963 radio grounds.

Rich,
To add to your feeling that the arm set up is original - look at the insert at the end. That tooth rubber is what an original SB.
The head markings are also typical of that time frame. As for size, have no idea and unable to measure mine however it's a 64.

[John D.]

Re: 1963 radio grounds.

Start washers have always been a point of discussion.
Don't forget there is no star washer used under the 63-65 fuel filter adapter star thin nut. It's an SASE flat washer. Same washer as used on the clean air tube adapter stud.

[Richard G.]

Re: 1963 radio grounds.

Yet another case and point:


They are happy to sell you the the almost correct part.
At least they have a picture.
Interesting as this part is not identified and can be easily reproduced.
Even the half nut and plating is correct.
Seems to have slipped on the washer.
Why would this need a ground anyway?

[Alan D.]

Re: 1963 radio grounds.

Richard,
If you are interested in more details on that area take a look at chapter web site, http://www.newenglandncrs.com/
Under Newsletters look up Vol 19-3 (2013) page 12, and the bolt is also wrong (another of John's favorite parts)

[Richard G.]

Re: 1963 radio grounds.

Alan
Thanks so much for the link.
Solved two questions, the washer on the fuel filter and the correct set up for the choke tube retaining nut.
Work like this is much appreciated.
Thanks for your input.
Rick

[Richard G.]

Re: 1963 radio grounds.

Information from Noland's book:
11-gauge bare strap.
3/8 hole in on end and a 1/4 inch hole in the other.
Overall length of 5" and center to center length of 4.3".
It appears the ground strap is not original.
as Timothy Barbieri pointed out on connection looks soldered.
I suspect he is correct as the ground strap looks like it was tined and not bare.
I still believe the bolt is correct but the ground is not.
The copper reproduction ground, shown in the prior picture, is 6.5" overall and 6" center to center.
Possibly the extra length will help it last a little longer.
Rick