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  • Dan P.
    Very Frequent User
    • December 1, 1990
    • 683

    Oil filter bypass valve

    Any body had trouble using the 60 year old oil filter bypass valve . Spring seam pretty weak .
  • Mike M.
    NCRS Past President
    • May 31, 1974
    • 8365

    #2
    Re: Oil filter bypass valve

    nos ones were available from AC about 15 years ago. may still be or try ebay. i used up my last NOS piece several years ago and should get one or two more. mike

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    • Joe L.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • February 1, 1988
      • 43193

      #3
      Re: Oil filter bypass valve

      Originally posted by Dan Patch (18395)
      Any body had trouble using the 60 year old oil filter bypass valve . Spring seam pretty weak .
      Dan------

      If you're talking about one that's been in a box for 60 years, it should be fine. If you're talking about one that's been in service for 60 years, it might not be a bad idea to replace it. Repeated heat cycles could weaken the spring over time. Replacements are available and they look pretty good to me.

      GM #5573979, discontinued but there should be some around if you want to go NOS.
      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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      • Mark E.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • April 1, 1993
        • 4498

        #4
        Re: Oil filter bypass valve

        Has anyone studied how often the bypass is open during normal operating cycles?

        On another forum, a post said the bypass is typically open for more than a few seconds during cold starts because of oil thickness. Not sure if I believe that.
        Mark Edmondson
        Dallas, Texas
        Texas Chapter

        1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
        1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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        • Peter T.
          Infrequent User
          • February 21, 2012
          • 29

          #5
          Re: Oil filter bypass valve

          Joe
          My oil filter bypass valve ('66 327) is Gm #3959104, not 5573979.I am changing back to the cartridge from spin on adapter. The gasket supplied with the bolt kit I bought does not have the 'bulge' in it required to go around the actual check valve 'hole'. I can find no info on part # 3959104.

          Pete

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          • Larry M.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • January 1, 1992
            • 2688

            #6
            Re: Oil filter bypass valve

            Originally posted by Mike McCagh (14)
            nos ones were available from AC about 15 years ago. may still be or try ebay. i used up my last NOS piece several years ago and should get one or two more. mike
            I believe Paragon had them reproduced using aluminum casting vs original magnesium. They should still work good and be a good replacement.

            Larry

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            • Joe L.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • February 1, 1988
              • 43193

              #7
              Re: Oil filter bypass valve

              Originally posted by Peter Terry (54593)
              Joe
              My oil filter bypass valve ('66 327) is Gm #3959104, not 5573979.I am changing back to the cartridge from spin on adapter. The gasket supplied with the bolt kit I bought does not have the 'bulge' in it required to go around the actual check valve 'hole'. I can find no info on part # 3959104.

              Pete
              Peter------


              I cannot find that GM #3959104 was ever a released part number for a finished part. So, I expect it's just a casting or component number for some other assembly. I highly doubt that it was ever used on any GM #5573979. With no doubt, at all, GM #5573979 was the original part number for the 1957-67 oil filter valve assembly. It is long-since GM discontinued and it had no supersessive part number.
              In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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              • Gary B.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • February 1, 1997
                • 6979

                #8
                Re: Oil filter bypass valve

                Originally posted by Larry Mulder (20401)
                I believe Paragon had them reproduced using aluminum casting vs original magnesium. They should still work good and be a good replacement.

                Larry
                Larry,

                Do you know why they were originally made from magnesium? That seems like a pretty exotic metal for a mass-produced car part in the 60s.

                Gary

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                • Larry M.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • January 1, 1992
                  • 2688

                  #9
                  Re: Oil filter bypass valve

                  Originally posted by Gary Beaupre (28818)
                  Larry,

                  Do you know why they were originally made from magnesium? That seems like a pretty exotic metal for a mass-produced car part in the 60s.

                  Gary
                  Gary:

                  I remember reading about the magnesium years ago, and also thought it strange. Maybe GM changed the material of construction later.......I do not know. Anyway, here is a link with the advantages etc. More of an ad, really, but a good summary. If you go into the link a bit deeper it compares magnesium directly to other various metals as well.



                  Larry

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                  • Frank D.
                    Expired
                    • December 27, 2007
                    • 2703

                    #10
                    Re: Oil filter bypass valve

                    Originally posted by Larry Mulder (20401)
                    I believe Paragon had them reproduced using aluminum casting vs original magnesium. They should still work good and be a good replacement.

                    Larry
                    When I switched back to the canister on the 63 I used a Paragon repro unit and it was actually pretty nice - that was 3 years ago and no issues...

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                    • Ken A.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • July 31, 1986
                      • 929

                      #11
                      Re: Oil filter bypass valve

                      FWIW the bypass was disabled by racers in the know back in the 60's as it allowed non filtered oil to by pass the filter. Simply remove the spring, pry out the retainer & replace with a large bolt & nut. Your bearings will last a lot longer. As long as oil does not leak around the can, all is well.

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                      • Jack H.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • April 1, 2000
                        • 477

                        #12
                        Re: Oil filter bypass valve

                        Originally posted by Gary Beaupre (28818)
                        Larry,

                        Do you know why they were originally made from magnesium? That seems like a pretty exotic metal for a mass-produced car part in the 60s.

                        Gary
                        I always assumed the originals were some cheap, crappy pot metal. Interesting and quite surprising that the originals are actually magnesium. Learn something every day.

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                        • Peter T.
                          Infrequent User
                          • February 21, 2012
                          • 29

                          #13
                          Re: Oil filter bypass valve

                          Joe,
                          I'm sending a couple pics of mine. It had no gasket under it and was used in conjunction with a spin on adapter. My AM shows no gasket? However my manual is a reprint. Maybe you have the first edition (autographed!).

                          Pete
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                          • Joe L.
                            Beyond Control Poster
                            • February 1, 1988
                            • 43193

                            #14
                            Re: Oil filter bypass valve

                            Originally posted by Peter Terry (54593)
                            Joe,
                            I'm sending a couple pics of mine. It had no gasket under it and was used in conjunction with a spin on adapter. My AM shows no gasket? However my manual is a reprint. Maybe you have the first edition (autographed!).

                            Pete
                            Peter------


                            The gasket, GM #3903322, between the valve assembly and the block was added during the 1967 model year. So, no earlier engine was equipped with this gasket. Of course, it could be retrofitted to any earlier engine. I've never understood the purpose of this gasket as, functionally, it seems quite superfluous to me. Curiously, while the 3903322 gasket was once available in SERVICE, it was never cataloged by GM for any Corvette application. It was discontinued without supersession in July, 1981. Of course, reproductions are easily available if one wishes to use the gasket. Would I use one on a 1957-67 engine? Probably. I don't think it's necessary but it can't do any harm.

                            As far as the valve assembly you have is concerned, it was part of a Chevrolet-supplied SERVICE-only oil filter conversion kit released in late 1968. It was never available as a separate part from GM and that's why I could not find it. It is configured somewhat differently than the GM #5573979 (SERVICE) or GM #5573837 (PRODUCTION) valve assemblies. (note: these are AC Division part numbers and AC Division part numbers are often different for PRODUCTION and SERVICE for the exact same part). The KIT which contained the 3959104 valve assembly also included several other components which you should also have as part of your conversion.

                            So, the question is could your 3959104 valve assembly be used in place of a 5573979/5573837 when converting back to a canister style oil filter? I do not know the answer to that but, if it were me, I would not use it thusly. I'd obtain an original 5573979 or a known reproduction thereof.
                            In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                            • Larry M.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • January 1, 1992
                              • 2688

                              #15
                              Re: Oil filter bypass valve

                              You have the original type oil filter bypass for early Chevrolet engines. It will work well for you when converting back to the can filter. I believe this is the magnesium version, and the 55xxxxx part number may be the same or possibly if/when GM began using aluminum for the material. That I do not know.

                              No gasket is required with this oil filter bypass, and none was installed by GM. But gaskets are available from the vendors. I used a gasket on my 1967 car. You need to accept that a small amount of oil leakage without the gasket is not bad, when the bypass itself allows unfiltered oil to bypass the oil filter directly to the engine.

                              Install it with or without the gasket using the correct length bolts........and tighten up snug. Use a new rubber square gasket with a NAPA Gold #1143 or WIX equivalent in the oil can. NAPA Gold and Wix are the same filter, but each has a different part number depending on the Brand.

                              Pre-fill the oil can and new filter with oil, install, and then torque the bottom can bolt to 20 ft-lbs. Start the engine and immediately check for any leaks. If done correctly, the oil can seals very very well...........but it is unforgiving if you take a shortcut or hurry the install.

                              Larry

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