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  • Michael G.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • November 12, 2008
    • 2155

    #16
    Re: NCRS Judging Records

    [QUOTE=Dave Perry (19643);813281]I don't think the Judging "Standard" has changed much, if at all. (I'd be curious to know when the Judging Standard in use today was first written).

    Dave, I'm not sure a semantics lesson was appropriate in this particular discussion with a new member, but, if we're correcting each other, I wrote "standards", not "standard".

    So, let's be clear: one definition of "standard", (I used its plural), is: "an idea or thing used as a measure, norm, or model in comparative evaluations". The number of "things" actually physically described the 1988 judging manual, with the intent that they be used as models in comparative evaluation (i.e.: judging), is significantly different than the number of things listed in subsequent judging manuals. Period.

    Jeeez. After the "sticker" thread and semantics lessons in this one,
    I'm just about done posting here... This forum used to be an exception from the troll-filled discussions all over the internet.








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    • Mike M.
      NCRS Past President
      • May 31, 1974
      • 8365

      #17
      Re: NCRS Judging Records

      mike: don't leave us. mike

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      • Ronald C.
        Expired
        • September 27, 2017
        • 15

        #18
        Re: NCRS Judging Records

        I wish to thank all of you for your advice and assistance, especially Mike.
        Regards,

        Ron

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        • Michael G.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • November 12, 2008
          • 2155

          #19
          Re: NCRS Judging Records

          Thanks Mike, maybe I'm being a bit oversensitive...

          Ron, I hope this little diversion from the norm didn't dampen your first days as a member. Sometimes the internet posts can get a little impersonal, but the guys here are usually very nice and extremely helpful. Good luck with your car and if I can be of any assistance in interpreting its current status, certainly don't hesitate to ask here or in a PM

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          • Ronald C.
            Expired
            • September 27, 2017
            • 15

            #20
            Re: NCRS Judging Records

            I'm privileged to have a group like this to talk with.
            I'm still trying to understand how I have documents with an overall of 95 yet no First Flite certificate.
            Any way to research the records by VIN perhaps?
            Regards,

            Ron

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            • Michael J.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • January 27, 2009
              • 7073

              #21
              Re: NCRS Judging Records

              Originally posted by ronald childress (64028)
              I'm privileged to have a group like this to talk with.
              I'm still trying to understand how I have documents with an overall of 95 yet no First Flite certificate.
              Any way to research the records by VIN perhaps?
              Regards,

              Ron
              Yes, go here: https://www.ncrs.org/services/histor...nt-service.php

              And order the Award Confirmation Service record of your car's judging.
              Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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              • Harry S.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • July 31, 2002
                • 5258

                #22
                Re: NCRS Judging Records

                Yes, on this site..... https://www.ncrs.org/services/histor...nt-service.php

                It's the car award confirmation service. It's fee based $300.00


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                • Ronald C.
                  Expired
                  • September 27, 2017
                  • 15

                  #23
                  Re: NCRS Judging Records

                  Originally posted by michael johnson (49879)
                  yes, go here: https://www.ncrs.org/services/histor...nt-service.php

                  and order the award confirmation service record of your car's judging.
                  thank you so very very much sir!!!

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                  • Patrick H.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • December 1, 1989
                    • 11608

                    #24
                    Re: NCRS Judging Records

                    Originally posted by ronald childress (64028)
                    thank you so very very much sir!!!
                    Given the age of the certificate, it's FAR cheaper to just have the car rejudged than to pay $300 and find out it was judged in 1990. I'll stand by what I said before, that the papers are essentially useless in 2017.

                    It's your car now - get the latest Judging Guide, download current judging sheets, and inspect the car.
                    Bring it to a Chapter meet and see what happens.

                    Patrick
                    Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                    71 "deer modified" coupe
                    72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                    2008 coupe
                    Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                    • Michael W.
                      Expired
                      • April 1, 1997
                      • 4290

                      #25
                      Re: NCRS Judging Records

                      Originally posted by ronald childress (64028)
                      I'm privileged to have a group like this to talk with.
                      I'm still trying to understand how I have documents with an overall of 95 yet no First Flite certificate.
                      Any way to research the records by VIN perhaps?
                      Regards,

                      Ron
                      It was certainly presented to the owner at the time. Must have been misplaced in the intervening years.

                      The confirmation service will not provide you with a new one, just confirm the date, place and level of past awards. Please understand that the awards are essentially as-is, where-is and apply while the car is sitting on the judging field on that day.

                      Many things can change in 24 hours never mind almost 3 decades.

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                      • Michael G.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • November 12, 2008
                        • 2155

                        #26
                        Re: NCRS Judging Records

                        Mike makes a good point. In order to achieve the score your car got back then, there were an awful lot of original parts present on the car at judging. Some of the rarest of those parts sometimes have a way of being replaced over the years. Not saying that's the case with yours, only that there's no guarantees that your car still has them...Twenty-seven years is a long time; a lot can happen.
                        Any that are gone, for whatever reason, will likely change the score.

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                        • Ronald C.
                          Expired
                          • September 27, 2017
                          • 15

                          #27
                          Re: NCRS Judging Records

                          Thanks all for the advice.
                          Greatly appreciated.

                          Ron

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