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  • Tom L.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • October 17, 2006
    • 1439

    VAC part number question

    In my pile of parts I came accoss a VAC with the part number "436 20" on it. According to the JG my application requires a "436 16" so it isn't of much use to me. Is the 436 20 a corvette part, and if so what is the application? Thanks!
  • Joe L.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • February 1, 1988
    • 43193

    #2
    Re: VAC part number question

    Originally posted by Tom Larsen (46337)
    In my pile of parts I came accoss a VAC with the part number "436 20" on it. According to the JG my application requires a "436 16" so it isn't of much use to me. Is the 436 20 a corvette part, and if so what is the application? Thanks!
    Tom-----

    '436 20' is the stamping found on GM #1973436 distributor vacuum controls. This vacuum control is applicable to 1971-72 Corvettes with LS-5. This vacuum control produces 20.5 crankshaft degrees of advance at 16-18" vacuum. I know of no vacuum control stamped 436 which produces 16 degrees advance.
    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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    • Tom L.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • October 17, 2006
      • 1439

      #3
      Re: VAC part number question

      Thanks Joe, god to know that it is a part for my application. Guess I could test it to see if it works or not.

      I don't have the latest copy of the latest JG yet. Anyone know if the "436 16" that is shown in the green JG is a misprint? Just curious, thanks!

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      • Patrick H.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • December 1, 1989
        • 11608

        #4
        Re: VAC part number question

        New JG also says 436 16, and is based on information taken from Delco-Remy specifications plus original cars, per the notation in the JG.
        Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
        71 "deer modified" coupe
        72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
        2008 coupe
        Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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        • Gary B.
          Very Frequent User
          • July 31, 1979
          • 926

          #5
          Re: VAC part number question

          I think the 436 20 is correct. They were wrong in the old manual and I replicated the error it in the new manual. Let me check in the morning, but I think a few others are also wrong. I have fixed the digital file on my computer, in case we ever do a 6th edition, but its on my shop computer.
          Ialso think some of the 68-69 vacuum canister numbers are wrong, but let me check...
          Gary B

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          • Gary B.
            Very Frequent User
            • July 31, 1979
            • 926

            #6
            Re: VAC part number question

            This is what I think the Vacuum numbers should be.

            Year Engine Horsepower Color Code* Distributor Vacuum**
            350 300 Base Green 1112020 357 20
            350 350 (L46) Orange 1112021 360 12
            1970 350 370 (LT1) Orange 1111491 (TI) 360 12
            454 390 (LS5) Gray 1111464 217 16
            350 270 Base Green 1112050 437 15
            350 330 (LT1) Yellow 1112038 (TI) 437 15
            1971 454 365 (LS5) Gray 1112051 436 20
            454 425 (LS6) Purple 1112076 (4 Spd & TI) 439 12
            454 425 (LS6) Pink 1112053 (Auto. & TI) 439 12
            350 200 Base Green 1112050 437 15
            1972 350 255 (LT1) Yellow 1112101 437 15
            454 270 (LS5) Gray 1112051 436 20

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            • Tom L.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • October 17, 2006
              • 1439

              #7
              Re: VAC part number question

              Thanks a lot gary, Once the driving season ends here I'm planning on some small projects for the winter. Also will be upgrading to the new JG. Not a criticism by any means, lord knows I'm far from perfect, but is there a way to track and get corrections to the guide other than what we read here? Perhaps an e-mail or paper list of the little errors that are accumulated? Thanks for all the hard work!!

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              • Gary B.
                Very Frequent User
                • July 31, 1979
                • 926

                #8
                Re: VAC part number question

                No offense taken, by any means. These manuals are only as good as the members make them, I alone can't do it, help from many people got it done. I wish I knew of a way to publish the changes, so every-bodies manual was up-to-date. We use to publish green sheets to update the manual with changes, but those are only as good as the people asking for them. Trying to email the 300 people, or so, the changes might be a daunting task. We have the Eratta Section on the front page of this forum, but I am not able to post there. I think... only David Brigham can. I know he is busier than a one armed paper hanger, and could not possibly post all the changes for all the different manuals. Then, not all out members use this forum.

                I am not sure it's fair for first printing, second printing either. You still have to buy another manual to get the updates. So, I think I'll wait and do 6th Edition a little later.

                So, maybe the major changes, I'll just post here on the forum. Still won't appeal to all the members, but it's a start?

                Gary Bosselman

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                • Patrick H.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • December 1, 1989
                  • 11608

                  #9
                  Re: VAC part number question

                  If a list is put together I might suggest emailing it to Chapter judging chairmen. One would hope that they could print it and add it to the manual.

                  Patrick
                  Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                  71 "deer modified" coupe
                  72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                  2008 coupe
                  Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                  • Joe L.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • February 1, 1988
                    • 43193

                    #10
                    Re: VAC part number question

                    Originally posted by Gary Bosselman (2575)
                    This is what I think the Vacuum numbers should be.

                    Year Engine Horsepower Color Code* Distributor Vacuum**
                    350 300 Base Green 1112020 357 20
                    350 350 (L46) Orange 1112021 360 12
                    1970 350 370 (LT1) Orange 1111491 (TI) 360 12
                    454 390 (LS5) Gray 1111464 217 16
                    350 270 Base Green 1112050 437 15
                    350 330 (LT1) Yellow 1112038 (TI) 437 15
                    1971 454 365 (LS5) Gray 1112051 436 20
                    454 425 (LS6) Purple 1112076 (4 Spd & TI) 439 12
                    454 425 (LS6) Pink 1112053 (Auto. & TI) 439 12
                    350 200 Base Green 1112050 437 15
                    1972 350 255 (LT1) Yellow 1112101 437 15
                    454 270 (LS5) Gray 1112051 436 20
                    Gary-----

                    I have checked all of the above and I agree with everything except the vacuum control used with the 1970 LS-5 with GM #1111464 distributor. I show that distributor as using the the GM #1116360 vacuum control stamped 360 12. Distributor vacuum control GM #1116217 was a vacuum control configured for inline 6 cylinder distributors. It could not have been used on any Corvette V-8 distributor.
                    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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