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  • Keith B.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • September 15, 2014
    • 1575

    judging newer generations

    At what point is it a waist of time to judge a C5 and possibly C6 cars. Any more all these cars entered for judging are just supper low mile cars that where kept perfect just for the sake of having low miles and getting awards. Not to knock the owners wanting these awards and low miles but its supper easy to get a top flight with a car with 1500 miles. I look at NCRS and its long time members who strive to obtain how the older cars where built and how to replicate everything and to restore. If this trend keeps up no one will restore even if they could with all the electronics a Corvette. Just pull one out of storage and take it through the ranks.
  • Floyd B.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • November 1, 2002
    • 1046

    #2
    Re: judging newer generations

    I think there are a few things to consider:

    1) This will always be a "point-in-time" situation. How many C1's and C2's are left in need of restoration? When the NCRS was started in the early 70's, C1's were just "used cars."
    2) While it is true that the cost vs. value equation doesn't make sense for most C4's, that is starting to change. I'm spending the time and money on restoring a LT4 convertible because it is at the top of the C4 Convertible food chain and ~1290 (including GS and CE of them were made. In time more C4's will be worth the effort.
    3) How many younger folks can afford a C1 or C2 Corvette? Even chrome bumper C3's are out of reach to most people with a family to provide for. Most people with the money to spend on sports/hobby cars don't drive American cars and turn a wrench. A young guy can buy a nice C4 or C5 for a price fit for mere mortals. This is the only realistic path for new blood into the hobby.
    4) If you follow the C4 and C5 catagories on that other popular Corvette forum you will see these young guys converting these high performace, cheap price cars into race cars. Sound familiar?

    As soon as we stop moving the hobby forward it will be on its path to death. Rather than kill the hobby, I think we should make more effort to generate interest in restoring C4's - their time will come.

    Just my 2 cents worth...
    '69 Blue/Blue L36 Vert w/ 4-Spd
    '73 Blue/Blue L48 Coupe w/ 4-Spd
    '96 Red/Black LT-4 Convertible
    "Drive it like you stole it"

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    • Ed H.
      Very Frequent User
      • November 1, 1999
      • 626

      #3
      Re: judging newer generations

      Amen Floyd. All you need to do is prepare for C-4 PV. My 93 ZR-1 took two tries and a lot of miles (driving) to be successful. My 90 took three tries and a lot more miles. To qualify for the Cross Flag award you need the 2 97's, a Pv and then you present it to the National judges where your car has to be more than 90% original. My 57 was far less complicated but a lot more expensive. The point is, a C-4 takes a lot of time but far less expensive to restore. The idea is to build up the membership not sit around watching it diminish.

      My 3 cents

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