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  • Alexander D.
    Very Frequent User
    • July 9, 2015
    • 111

    1967 coupe - estimating licensing date from Production date

    Is there some way to estimate when a 1967 coupe was actually delivered to its original owner?

    According to the NCRS Shipping Data Report, the GM official Production Date of my car was April 11, 1967.

    The car was delivered to H.E. Baher Chevrolet, in Manhattan Beach, California.

    I imagine it would take perhaps a week for the train transport to reach the L.A. area from Detroit. Is that a realistic time frame?

    Assuming the car was special ordered by a specific customer, how many days might elapse from Production Date to the date the customer drives it off the lot? A week? Two? My car is highly optioned with A/C, PW, PB, PS, A/T, etc. Is it reasonable to assume this car would have been specifically ordered so equipped by the buyer? Or did dealers get cars sent to them with a variety of options with the hope that the car would sell? If my car wasn't special ordered, then it might have sat on the dealer's lot for an unknown length of time before being sold. Unfortunately, I have no documentation on the car before 1982.

    The reason I'm interested in this is because I want to buy a set of original black California license plates to display on the car at shows. I'd like to buy plates with a letter sequence that would be plausibly 'correct' taking into account when the car might have been sold and registered. I understand "T,U, and V" were the beginning letters for cars registered in California in 1967.

    So which starting letter(s) would be realistic for a car likely licensed sometime between the end of April and the beginning of May? Would "UWZ 007" fit the bill?

    Thanks,

    Alex
    NCRS#61370
  • Don H.
    Moderator
    • June 16, 2009
    • 2236

    #2
    Re: 1967 coupe - estimating licensing date from Production date

    Yes Alex, that would fit perfectly. Especially given that distribution of plates throughout the many counties of CAL was irregular. U or V would most likely have been what your car was first licensed with. As for your first question of when was your car sold to 1st buyer, I don't think you will ever no that without asking that buyer.

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    • Stephen L.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • May 31, 1984
      • 3148

      #3
      Re: 1967 coupe - estimating licensing date from Production date

      My Marina Blue coupe 427/390 was also produced on April 11 1967. Last 3 digits of the VIN XXX 770. What are yours????

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      • Herb P.
        Frequent User
        • April 19, 2011
        • 37

        #4
        Re: 1967 coupe - estimating licensing date from Production date

        My Sunfire Yellow coupe 327/350hp was produced on May 8, 1967. Last 3 digits of the VIN XXX998. My CA. Black Plates are VTC 011.

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        • Peter M.
          Very Frequent User
          • May 30, 2013
          • 358

          #5
          Re: 1967 coupe - estimating licensing date from Production date

          Alex,
          My April 17th car has a plate that begins with "U". The original owner is deceased and the protecto-plate is not with the car so I can't say when it was first licensed.
          Kind regards.

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          • Michael H.
            Very Frequent User
            • December 1, 1987
            • 724

            #6
            Re: 1967 coupe - estimating licensing date from Production date

            My old 67 S/N 14751 build date March 25 had Calif plates that started with U. Car was sold out of Chatsworth.

            Mike

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            • Robert B.
              Very Frequent User
              • May 31, 2005
              • 163

              #7
              Re: 1967 coupe - estimating licensing date from Production date

              Hi Alex -

              This may help you out - My 1966 Coupe was built on 4/16/1966 per the NCRS shipping data report. It was delivered to H.E. Baher Chevrolet, Manhattan Beach, and my protecto plate shows that it was delivered on 5/17/66. It is still wearing it's original license plates which are SQH 640.

              My 1967 coupe was built on September 3, 1966 and while I don't have the protecto plate so I can't confirm the delivery date, I can tell you that it is wearing it's original black plates which are TSL 618.

              So it looks like about a month from production to delivery to the same dealer as your car, and yes, I would think that a UWZ 007 would be very appropriate for your car.

              Bob

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              • Robert K.
                Very Frequent User
                • June 30, 2001
                • 212

                #8
                Re: 1967 coupe - estimating licensing date from Production date

                Does anyone know what happened to the App that used to be out there to calculate the brithdate based on VIN? I checked recently and it does not seem to be available any longer......

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                • Leif A.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • August 31, 1997
                  • 3607

                  #9
                  Re: 1967 coupe - estimating licensing date from Production date

                  Robert,
                  The C2 Registry provides a similar service.

                  https://www.c2registry.org/index.php...hdayCalculator
                  Leif
                  '67 Coupe L79, M21, C60, N14, N40, J50, A31, U69, A01, QB1
                  Top Flight 2017 Lone Star Regional

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                  • Alexander D.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • July 9, 2015
                    • 111

                    #10
                    Re: 1967 coupe - estimating licensing date from Production date

                    Originally posted by Stephen Lavigne (7553)
                    My Marina Blue coupe 427/390 was also produced on April 11 1967. Last 3 digits of the VIN XXX 770. What are yours????
                    Hi Stephen - the VIN of my Marina Blue coupe 327/300 ends in XXX 838, so was produced 68 cars after yours. Where was your car sold brand new?

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                    • Alexander D.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • July 9, 2015
                      • 111

                      #11
                      Re: 1967 coupe - estimating licensing date from Production date

                      Originally posted by Robert Behlman (44041)
                      Hi Alex -

                      This may help you out - My 1966 Coupe was built on 4/16/1966 per the NCRS shipping data report. It was delivered to H.E. Baher Chevrolet, Manhattan Beach, and my protecto plate shows that it was delivered on 5/17/66. It is still wearing it's original license plates which are SQH 640.

                      My 1967 coupe was built on September 3, 1966 and while I don't have the protecto plate so I can't confirm the delivery date, I can tell you that it is wearing it's original black plates which are TSL 618.

                      So it looks like about a month from production to delivery to the same dealer as your car, and yes, I would think that a UWZ 007 would be very appropriate for your car.

                      Bob
                      Hi Bob - Thanks for sharing the details on your cars to confirm the interval between production and likely delivery to be about one month. From your comments and those of others who posted here it seems that UWZ 007 is a plausible CA license plate for my car.

                      BTW - I corresponded with you about the 200-4R transmission swap, did I not? Did I ever update you on the route I took with my Powerglide equipped car? Let me know and I'll be happy to share my story with you.

                      Alex

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                      • Robert B.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • May 31, 2005
                        • 163

                        #12
                        Re: 1967 coupe - estimating licensing date from Production date

                        No I don't recall hearing how you did your power glide swap!

                        Bob

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                        • Stephen L.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • May 31, 1984
                          • 3148

                          #13
                          Re: 1967 coupe - estimating licensing date from Production date

                          Alex,
                          My car was sold new at Franklin Chevrolet in Statesboro Ga.

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                          • Keith K.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • January 23, 2008
                            • 510

                            #14
                            Re: 1967 coupe - estimating licensing date from Production date

                            My 67 coupe was delivered in Northern California. The estimated assembly date on the tank sticker is 10/14/66 - it was delivered to the customer on 11/21/66 (about 5 weeks) - the original black plate letters are TJR

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                            • Stephen L.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • May 31, 1984
                              • 3148

                              #15
                              Re: 1967 coupe - estimating licensing date from Production date

                              Originally posted by Stephen Lavigne (7553)
                              Alex,
                              My car was sold new at Franklin Chevrolet in Statesboro Ga.
                              This is a photo of the dealership in 1967......
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