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  • Bill L.
    Expired
    • April 1, 1985
    • 349

    Tonawanda Big Block Assembly Sequence

    HI:

    When were the engine assembly date and suffix ID code stamped on a big block engine at Tonawanda?

    Prior to adding the heads or after?

    Thanks in advance for any information you can provide...

    Regards
    Bill
  • Larry M.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • January 1, 1992
    • 2688

    #2
    Re: Tonawanda Big Block Assembly Sequence

    Stamped before heads were installed.

    Larry

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    • Bill L.
      Expired
      • April 1, 1985
      • 349

      #3
      Re: Tonawanda Big Block Assembly Sequence

      Thanks Larry.

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      • Dave H.
        Frequent User
        • August 17, 2010
        • 47

        #4
        Re: Tonawanda Big Block Assembly Sequence

        Can I make the following assumptions:
        1. Assy date and engine code (the large font stamp) was applied before heads were installed on an assembled, unpainted short block.
        2. Pad is taped over.
        3. Long block plus extras are assembled complete (heads, intake, exhaust, water pump?)
        4. Engine painted.
        5. Tape pad removed.
        6. Engine assy complete (carb, dist, wires, alt?)

        Small blocks at Flint the same?

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        • Michael J.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • January 27, 2009
          • 7073

          #5
          Re: Tonawanda Big Block Assembly Sequence

          Distributor was in, wires, carb, alternator added in St. Louis
          Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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          • Gene M.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • April 1, 1985
            • 4232

            #6
            Re: Tonawanda Big Block Assembly Sequence

            Originally posted by Dave Hart (52080)
            Can I make the following assumptions:
            1. Assy date and engine code (the large font stamp) was applied before heads were installed on an assembled, unpainted short block.
            2. Pad is taped over.
            3. Long block plus extras are assembled complete (heads, intake, exhaust, water pump?)
            4. Engine painted.
            5. Tape pad removed.
            6. Engine assy complete (carb, dist, wires, alt?)

            Small blocks at Flint the same?

            No, number 1 not same and number 3 depends on model year.

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            • John D.
              Very Frequent User
              • June 30, 1991
              • 874

              #7
              Re: Tonawanda Big Block Assembly Sequence

              Were big blocks tested and run at Tonawanda like the small blocks in Flint ? I've never seen any pics. If so did they put plug wires on for testing then take them off prior to shipping ?.

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              • Terry M.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • September 30, 1980
                • 15573

                #8
                Re: Tonawanda Big Block Assembly Sequence

                Originally posted by John Daly (19684)
                Were big blocks tested and run at Tonawanda like the small blocks in Flint ? I've never seen any pics. If so did they put plug wires on for testing then take them off prior to shipping ?.
                Yes Tonawanda "hot tested" engines before shipping. Yes they had a set of spark plug wires that were part of the test stand. They were different than the wires we would put on the car and different than those that went on at St Louis or other vehicle assembly plants.
                Terry

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                • Jack M.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • March 1, 1991
                  • 1138

                  #9
                  Re: Tonawanda Big Block Assembly Sequence

                  Originally posted by John Daly (19684)
                  Were big blocks tested and run at Tonawanda like the small blocks in Flint ? I've never seen any pics. If so did they put plug wires on for testing then take them off prior to shipping ?.
                  Here's an GREAT article from 1966 Corvette News... unfortunately, I had to reduce the quality due to file size limitations.
                  You should be able to ZOOM into the pictures... click the link below:
                  1966 Corvette News (Vol-9 #5) - Building 427 Engines.pdf

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                  • Joe R.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • May 31, 2006
                    • 1822

                    #10
                    Re: Tonawanda Big Block Assembly Sequence

                    Very cool article Jack! Thanks for posting!!!

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                    • Terry M.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • September 30, 1980
                      • 15573

                      #11
                      Re: Tonawanda Big Block Assembly Sequence

                      Originally posted by Jack Morocco (18851)
                      Here's an GREAT article from 1966 Corvette News... unfortunately, I had to reduce the quality due to file size limitations.
                      You should be able to ZOOM into the pictures... click the link below:
                      [ATTACH]91548[/ATTACH]
                      Good you were able to dig up that story Jack. One needs to remember those details work for 1966, but smaller details may differ from year to year, as Gene mentioned above. One needs to study original examples of their year of interest to verify original details that are applicable to their specific year. In some cases it may be necessary to study specific months, weeks or even days of production to pin down fine details. That's what makes this so much fun.
                      Terry

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                      • Bill M.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • April 1, 1977
                        • 1386

                        #12
                        Re: Tonawanda Big Block Assembly Sequence

                        Originally posted by Jack Morocco (18851)
                        Here's an GREAT article from 1966 Corvette News... unfortunately, I had to reduce the quality due to file size limitations.
                        You should be able to ZOOM into the pictures... click the link below:
                        [ATTACH]91548[/ATTACH]
                        I spent the summer of 1969 working in the Tonawanda Engineering Test Lab running engines on the 200 hour durability test and tearing them down for engineering inspection at the end of the test. (The guy running the test in the article's photo is Ralph. That is the big block test cell.) I did see both big block and small block self-destruct, but it was rare. Fun assignment; coming up on 50 years ago. The highlight of the summer was running L-88s on the test. They ran with headers and exhausted through a huge muffler through the roof of the plant. They made a sweet sound you could hear from outside the plant. All other engines exhausted through a system under the floor and were quiet.

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                        • Michael J.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • January 27, 2009
                          • 7073

                          #13
                          Re: Tonawanda Big Block Assembly Sequence

                          That's a great piece of history Jack, thanks!
                          Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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                          • John D.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • June 30, 1991
                            • 874

                            #14
                            Re: Tonawanda Big Block Assembly Sequence

                            Many years ago as a young GM engineer I wandered into the dynamometer test area at the Tech Center in Warren. Back then you could get into almost any building by flashing your ID card. They were doing a durabilty test on Mark IV where they pumped very low temp coolant through the engine overnight until it was essentially iced up. They then started it up and ran it through a series of high RPM tests to see if it would fail. Very cool stuff.

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                            • Ray G.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • May 31, 1986
                              • 1187

                              #15
                              Re: Tonawanda Big Block Assembly Sequence

                              Thank You for the experience and History ... LUV this kind of stuff.
                              And when you get the choice to sit it out or dance
                              I hope you dance


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