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  • Keith R.
    Very Frequent User
    • August 31, 2001
    • 660

    Stowage compartment/Seat Separator Lock positions - Which is correct?

    I was performing my own Ops Check in preparation for a Chapter Meet using the new 5th edition TIM & Judging Guide. With regard to the stowage compartment between the seats, it states that the "Unlocked key position is vertical with the teeth down" and Locked is horizontal with the teeth facing the passenger side. On my car, the Unlocked position was horizontal with the teeth facing the passenger side and Locked was vertical with the teeth facing down. I'm very confident that my lock is original.

    The previous 4th edition TIM & Judging Guide contradicts the 5th edition stating that "the locked position is vertical with the key teeth down" and that the unlocked position is horizontal "with the key teeth facing passenger."

    Is the new 5th edition TIM & Judging Guide incorrect or do I have a lock for another year? Which is correct?
    Keith MacRae
    NCRS #36692
    New Mexico Chapter
    1960 290HP FI
    2013 427 Convertible

    Shade tree mechanic and
    B-52 pilot extraordinaire
  • Keith R.
    Very Frequent User
    • August 31, 2001
    • 660

    #2
    Re: Stowage compartment/Seat Separator Lock positions - Which is correct?

    Any comments anyone?
    Keith MacRae
    NCRS #36692
    New Mexico Chapter
    1960 290HP FI
    2013 427 Convertible

    Shade tree mechanic and
    B-52 pilot extraordinaire

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    • Terry D.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • May 31, 1987
      • 2690

      #3
      Re: Stowage compartment/Seat Separator Lock positions - Which is correct?

      The only comment I have is according to your statement 4th and 5th editions agree, so I don't see a problem

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      • Keith R.
        Very Frequent User
        • August 31, 2001
        • 660

        #4
        Re: Stowage compartment/Seat Separator Lock positions - Which is correct?

        Thanks Terry. Perhaps you misread it. Take a look at it again. My lock operates as stated in the 4th edition and opposite what is stated in the 5th edition. The two editions contradict each other regarding the locked position of the compartment. The way the lock cylinder is constructed, it is impossible for it to function according to the 5th edition.
        Keith MacRae
        NCRS #36692
        New Mexico Chapter
        1960 290HP FI
        2013 427 Convertible

        Shade tree mechanic and
        B-52 pilot extraordinaire

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        • John T.
          NCRS Financial Officer
          • January 1, 1983
          • 290

          #5
          Re: Stowage compartment/Seat Separator Lock positions - Which is correct?

          The 5th edition is incorrect. (I can say that because I wrote it.) The descriptions are reversed. The correct operation is as Keith describes it.

          John

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          • Keith R.
            Very Frequent User
            • August 31, 2001
            • 660

            #6
            Re: Stowage compartment/Seat Separator Lock positions - Which is correct?

            Thanks very much John. I figured as much. It completely took me by surprise so I pulled the whole thing apart again to figure out why it wasn't working as described. Glad to know that mine is operating correctly as designed.
            Originally posted by John Tidwell (6325)
            The 5th edition is incorrect. (I can say that because I wrote it.) The descriptions are reversed. The correct operation is as Keith describes it.

            John
            Keith MacRae
            NCRS #36692
            New Mexico Chapter
            1960 290HP FI
            2013 427 Convertible

            Shade tree mechanic and
            B-52 pilot extraordinaire

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            • Ian G.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • September 3, 2007
              • 1114

              #7
              Re: Stowage compartment/Seat Separator Lock positions - Which is correct?

              Are you able to add this to the site errata John?

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              • Keith R.
                Very Frequent User
                • August 31, 2001
                • 660

                #8
                Re: Stowage compartment/Seat Separator Lock positions - Which is correct?

                I think that there should be a section of the forum somewhere (perhaps in the Help Section) where members could post any discrepancies they find in the judging guides. Unless of course, there is already such an animal and I am not aware of it.
                Keith MacRae
                NCRS #36692
                New Mexico Chapter
                1960 290HP FI
                2013 427 Convertible

                Shade tree mechanic and
                B-52 pilot extraordinaire

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                • Harry S.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • July 31, 2002
                  • 5258

                  #9
                  Re: Stowage compartment/Seat Separator Lock positions - Which is correct?

                  It's a good thought to have a place to plug information but I think you may get more opinion than fact. I like the idea of presenting the change with all the background information to the Team Leader as he is the final decision maker. There is a link on the site for approved Team Leader changes. The name of the link on the site is: Technical Information Manual and Judging Guide Errata Sheets



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                  • Keith R.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • August 31, 2001
                    • 660

                    #10
                    Re: Stowage compartment/Seat Separator Lock positions - Which is correct?

                    True Harry however if you go to that site, there is only one thread and one post by Dave Brigham in February 2015. Such a section of the Technical Discussion Forum only has value if it is used and updated regularly. This section is also for display only - members cannot post to it.
                    Originally posted by Harry Sadlock (38513)
                    It's a good thought to have a place to plug information but I think you may get more opinion than fact. I like the idea of presenting the change with all the background information to the Team Leader as he is the final decision maker. There is a link on the site for approved Team Leader changes. The name of the link on the site is: Technical Information Manual and Judging Guide Errata Sheets



                    Keith MacRae
                    NCRS #36692
                    New Mexico Chapter
                    1960 290HP FI
                    2013 427 Convertible

                    Shade tree mechanic and
                    B-52 pilot extraordinaire

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