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  • Donald O.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • May 31, 1990
    • 1580

    1967 power steering pump

    ??all wrench & while applying a brake force in pulley groove, torque by.

    What kind of wrench should be used, or socket & ratchet?
    What is the correct torque?
    Should lock-tite BLUE be used on the pulley retaining nut?

    Thanks,
    Don
    The light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off.
  • Mike M.
    NCRS Past President
    • May 31, 1974
    • 8365

    #2
    Re: 1967 power steering pump

    allen wrench. insert it into the pump shaft. that being said, I simply use a 1/2" drive impact wrench to tighten the nut.loctite a good idea. mike

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    • Joe L.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • February 1, 1988
      • 43193

      #3
      Re: 1967 power steering pump

      Originally posted by Mike McCagh (14)
      allen wrench. insert it into the pump shaft. that being said, I simply use a 1/2" drive impact wrench to tighten the nut.loctite a good idea. mike
      Mike-----

      I'm not aware that these power steering pump shafts had provisions for an allen wrench. Have I missed something?
      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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      • Joe L.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • February 1, 1988
        • 43193

        #4
        Re: 1967 power steering pump

        Originally posted by Donald Olson (17357)
        In the AIM:
        On UPC N40, Sheet A5,
        under the “Mandatory Assembly Instructions”
        Step 4
        Use a ??all wrench & while applying a brake force in pulley groove, torque by.

        What kind of wrench should be used, or socket & ratchet?
        What is the correct torque?
        Should lock-tite BLUE be used on the pulley retaining nut?

        Thanks,
        Don
        Don------


        Which pulley do you have? Is it a stamped steel or cast iron?
        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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        • Mike M.
          NCRS Past President
          • May 31, 1974
          • 8365

          #5
          Re: 1967 power steering pump

          Joe: u are correct, senility catching up with me. I was thinking of removing alternator pulleys. the impact wrench trick works though. regards, mike

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          • Donald O.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • May 31, 1990
            • 1580

            #6
            Re: 1967 power steering pump

            Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
            Don------


            Which pulley do you have? Is it a stamped steel or cast iron?
            The light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off.

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            • Joe L.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • February 1, 1988
              • 43193

              #7
              Re: 1967 power steering pump

              Originally posted by Donald Olson (17357)
              Joe,
              Right now, neither.
              I am trying to do the installation in my head first.
              My right shoulder is so eff upped that I am faced with the option of either adding power steering or not driving the 67. I would rather add the p/s than just park it in the garage.
              I’m going through my books and service manuals before I drop a g-note on the parts.

              Which is is the correct pulley? I’m assuming it is the cast iron.

              Don
              Don------


              What engine do you have?
              In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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              • Donald O.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • May 31, 1990
                • 1580

                #8
                Re: 1967 power steering pump

                Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
                Don------


                What engine do you have?
                Joe,
                Since the AIM only lists one pump with pulley for all engines.....

                I have the 327 350hp, engine code HT

                Don
                The light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off.

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                • Joe L.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • February 1, 1988
                  • 43193

                  #9
                  Re: 1967 power steering pump

                  Originally posted by Donald Olson (17357)
                  Joe,
                  Since the AIM only lists one pump with pulley for all engines.....

                  I have the 327 350hp, engine code HT

                  Don
                  Don------


                  That's too bad (at least as far as p/s pump pulley installation is concerned); that makes it tougher. The 300 hp engine uses a stamped steel pulley, GM #3770509 that has a center fitting with flats for installing a wrench to prevent rotation of the pulley when installing the nut. This is the installation described in the AIM. The 350 hp engines uses a cast iron pulley, GM #3834720, with no such flats. The AIM is silent on installation of that pulley. It's actually the same as the aforementioned except there's no designed-in means of holding the pulley. I install the pulley onto the pump by hand, pressing it on as far as possible. Then, I put the pulley in a vice and install the nut. The shaft will not turn since there is a key in the shaft and a keyway in the pulley. Then, install the special nut and torque to 60 lb/ft. The nut, GM #3824475 is a self-locking nut and no locking compound is required.

                  The pulley and nut are no longer available from GM but are available in the reproduction/aftermarket.
                  In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                  • Donald O.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • May 31, 1990
                    • 1580

                    #10
                    Re: 1967 power steering pump

                    Thanks Joe.

                    Is there a difference between the pulleys other than materials, like diameter, belt groove width?

                    Don
                    The light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off.

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                    • Joe L.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • February 1, 1988
                      • 43193

                      #11
                      Re: 1967 power steering pump

                      Originally posted by Donald Olson (17357)
                      Thanks Joe.

                      Is there a difference between the pulleys other than materials, like diameter, belt groove width?

                      Don
                      Don------


                      Big differences and the two are not interchangeable. The 3770509 is 5-3/4"; the 3834720 is 6-1/2". The off-sets are completely different. The 3770509 is a standard groove pulley; the 3834720 is a deep groove pulley. However, you can use the 3770509 for your application as long as you change ALL of the other pulleys, too.
                      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                      • Donald O.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • May 31, 1990
                        • 1580

                        #12
                        Re: 1967 power steering pump

                        More questions
                        Which crankshaft pulley should I use or change to? And which belt?
                        Right now its a 327 350hp L79, no P/S, no AC, no P/B, no AIR
                        with a two groove pulley for the crankshaft and the water pump.

                        Don
                        The light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off.

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                        • Joe L.
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          • February 1, 1988
                          • 43193

                          #13
                          Re: 1967 power steering pump

                          Originally posted by Donald Olson (17357)
                          More questions
                          Which crankshaft pulley should I use or change to? And which belt?
                          Right now its a 327 350hp L79, no P/S, no AC, no P/B, no AIR
                          with a two groove pulley for the crankshaft and the water pump.

                          Don

                          Don------


                          You should have the correct crankshaft pulley now. It should be GM #3858533. As is, your crankshaft and waterpump pulleys should be connected by a captive belt. With the addition of power steering, this will be replaced by a belt which connects the crankshaft, waterpump, and power steering pump pulleys. This is a very simple addition. As a bonus, it eliminates a captive belt and replaces it with one that can be adjusted at the power steering pump.

                          The belt should be a 3/8 X 45".
                          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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