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  • Loren L.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • April 30, 1976
    • 4104

    Work Order 19064

    Anyone out there with access or copies of any of WO #19064? I have "- 2", but need others for information. Thanks for looking.
  • David B.
    Very Frequent User
    • March 1, 1980
    • 687

    #2
    Re: Work Order 19064

    Originally posted by Loren Lundberg (912)
    Anyone out there with access or copies of any of WO #19064? I have "- 2", but need others for information. Thanks for looking.


    Loren, Did you ever get a response to this thread? Do not have but did run across reverences to WO 19061 -- L 43618. Has to do with 3 spd trans shifter bosses for #5951. Are you looking for anything in particular?? D

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    • Loren L.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • April 30, 1976
      • 4104

      #3
      Re: Work Order 19064

      David, I had an "indicator" (read as WAG") that 19064 might be a reference as to when Eng. # 5951 received an "updated" 3 spd. Wanted to see if the date could be interpreted as a date after which 3 spds would have been available. In another thread, I had mentioned that '55 1654 (Sebring #5 or 6) had been ordered as a 3 spd and was chastised by another member of the "Only The Last 25 '55s Could Be 3 spds Club".

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      • David B.
        Very Frequent User
        • March 1, 1980
        • 687

        #4
        Re: Work Order 19064

        Got it! Have several pages from #5951 log book with reference dates. Pretty sure you have the same info from past research for out Ohio friend.

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        • Loren L.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • April 30, 1976
          • 4104

          #5
          Re: Work Order 19064

          Unfortunately, that thought occurred to me that "It's here somewhere.". I've apparently put it in a "really SAFE place".......

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          • David B.
            Very Frequent User
            • March 1, 1980
            • 687

            #6
            Re: Work Order 19064

            River Rat my friend it's called getting old! I might have the same problem. I think I have the blueprint for what you might be looking for if I can find it!

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            • Dick W.
              Former NCRS Director Region IV
              • June 30, 1985
              • 10483

              #7
              Re: Work Order 19064

              Originally posted by David Bartush (3288)
              Got it! Have several pages from #5951 log book with reference dates. Pretty sure you have the same info from past research for out Ohio friend.

              The log book had that info, many notes with ZAD initials. I just wish I had photocopied it when it was in my office.

              The NCRS library collection in Hershey should have a copy. When I had the log book I called John Amgwert to tell him about it. He told me to hold on for a minute. I read him something out of the book and he would read me the next line/page.
              Dick Whittington

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              • David B.
                Very Frequent User
                • March 1, 1980
                • 687

                #8
                Re: Work Order 19064

                Dick,
                VERY familiar with 5951's log book. I may have been the one that first gave John the info. Still have the original November 30, 1954 page authorizing the WO to take 5951 and 6001 to the Desert Proving Grounds. Unfortunately there are other pages that have been altered by adding a hand written vin# at the top. This has caused a lot of misinformation, ei: fake claims!

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                • Dick W.
                  Former NCRS Director Region IV
                  • June 30, 1985
                  • 10483

                  #9
                  Re: Work Order 19064

                  Originally posted by David Bartush (3288)
                  Dick,
                  VERY familiar with 5951's log book. I may have been the one that first gave John the info. Still have the original November 30, 1954 page authorizing the WO to take 5951 and 6001 to the Desert Proving Grounds. Unfortunately there are other pages that have been altered by adding a hand written vin# at the top. This has caused a lot of misinformation, ei: fake claims!
                  I saw the log book in the late '70's or early '80's. The then owner had paid a princely sum of $800 for the car. Prior to him buying it, it had been a drag car with a straight axle under it. It ran from '58 to about '61 as Church's Little Angel. Prior to that Alvin Hawkins, the promoter at Bowman Gray Stadium in Winston Salem was the owner
                  Dick Whittington

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                  • David B.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • March 1, 1980
                    • 687

                    #10
                    Re: Work Order 19064

                    Agree, Mr Hawkins did handle sale of the two Bill France Nascar Corvettes: 53 #211 & 55 #399. However, he did NOT sell GM Engineering car 5951/EX-87. This car is significant as the first V-8 Corvette as well as the first 3 spd. equipped (WO 19061-2, L-43618). It racked up over 10,000 miles on the streets of Detroit (Tom Parson's favorite city) testing these options before going on to Phoenix for high speed tests. GM rebuilt this car numerous times and continued to use it into 1956 when it was used to help develop the HD brake & suspension option. If the log book with some of this information had stayed with #5951, a lot of false claims could have been prevented.

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                    • Loren L.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • April 30, 1976
                      • 4104

                      #11
                      Re: Work Order 19064

                      Those 10,000 miles in Detroit continue to confound the owners today. They are reluctant to lift the body to seek a "second" stamping of the partial VIN, even after cutting through the body in a recommended location for the stamping - the result was a visible "3" as I recall, but the overall surface would make you believe that the 10K were all in Jan-Mar. IIRC, the earliest WO I have with Eng. #5951 is in May '54 where it is being used with Eng. #5950 to evaluate brake line locations.

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                      • Dick W.
                        Former NCRS Director Region IV
                        • June 30, 1985
                        • 10483

                        #12
                        Re: Work Order 19064

                        Originally posted by David Bartush (3288)
                        Agree, Mr Hawkins did handle sale of the two Bill France Nascar Corvettes: 53 #211 & 55 #399. However, he did NOT sell GM Engineering car 5951/EX-87. This car is significant as the first V-8 Corvette as well as the first 3 spd. equipped (WO 19061-2, L-43618). It racked up over 10,000 miles on the streets of Detroit (Tom Parson's favorite city) testing these options before going on to Phoenix for high speed tests. GM rebuilt this car numerous times and continued to use it into 1956 when it was used to help develop the HD brake & suspension option. If the log book with some of this information had stayed with #5951, a lot of false claims could have been prevented.
                        Oops! Stevie Wonder could see I was confused. I was thinking of what eventually became #399
                        Dick Whittington

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