Radio ECL's 1967

[David B.]

Re: Radio ECL's 1967

My 67 C60 L 79 tank sticker reads O2Y73AC

"EB" shows up in '67 under the K19 option code. It shows there were 85 units with similar equipment. I am really curious about the "Y73" numbers/letters. Are those correct for sure?

[Bill M.]

Re: Radio ECL's 1967

Yes sir Y73 car from Waco Texas non posi coupe

[Keith B.]

Re: Radio ECL's 1967

"EB" shows up in '67 under the K19 option code. It shows there were 85 units with similar equipment. I am really curious about the "Y73" numbers/letters. Are those correct for sure?

Is your car a AO Smith

[Bill M.]

Re: Radio ECL's 1967

Yes 04-17-67 comp production

[Jack M.]

Re: Radio ECL's 1967

My 67 C60 L 79 tank sticker reads O2Y73AC

Bill- If your car has an AOS body, I believe the tank sticker typically called out the radio code TWICE.
Look to see if you also have something like a 2U69AC also listed (besides the O2Y73AC).

[Bill M.]

Re: Radio ECL's 1967

Jack you sure know your tank stickers yes above list it says 2U69AC Radio. PB am/fm.

[Mark F.]

Re: Radio ECL's 1967

I'm no expert at identifying a 'real' window sticker... but upon further review, the 1967 WS that Noland published on Page 44 appears to be a REPRODUCTION (so we can't be certain of the ECL codes).

I had a few 1967 window/tank sticker images that I've saved in the past... most of these were found online. Some were clear reproductions, but a few were 'decent' looking. I've mainly concentrated on the 390 & 400 HP window stickers... some had A/C, some C60 & N14, and a few without those options (it seems Noland's ECL codes revolved around these options).

Looking at six images, we have the following:
390 with N14 = FA (2-vehicles)
390 with C60 & N14 = FB (1-vehicle)
400 withOUT C60 = EE (2-vehicles)
400 with C60 = EF (1-vehicle)

The EE radio codes are NOT listed in Noland's book... the others are listed.
Itz a GREAT reference book, but there are several known mistakes/omissions.

Jack, agreed on the EE code.
this is a copy of my Tank Sticker
InkedTank Sticker - Option codes only_LI.jpg

[Jack M.]

Re: Radio ECL's 1967

Mark- Seems like that EE code is indeed confirmed... even though the sample is very small.

[Jimmy G.]

Re: Radio ECL's 1967

1967 400 Auto Ac AIR 02U69EF

[Jimmy G.]

Re: Radio ECL's 1967

435 02u69ga

[Mark F.]

Re: Radio ECL's 1967

To ALL above: I'll conclude my contributions by saying I have always been amazed and truly impressed at the monumental work Noland Adams did (and the multitude of folks he widely credits for helping him!) creating the C2 book (I bought Vol II 21+ years ago, and it's falling apart from how many times I've referred to it).

Although I have never owned a C1, I just recently bought his C1 book on eBay because I was so impressed with what he produced for the C2. I had planned to read that during the COVID-19 lock-down; but other house-bound projects interfered AND hopefully we are closing in on the end of all of that..(COVID and mounting projects)

Who knows, maybe Noland didn't want to put things in his books unless he had at least one (or more?) substantiated example(s) he felt comfortable with? Maybe he didn't have enough radio ECLs from his "surveys" that he was confident of to make him want to add them to his "published" list?

Anyhow, along those lines - most automotive books I have purchased and read over the years have "errors" (maybe a harsh term).

I'm sure that's also true with Noland's Vol II, but someone needed to be the first guy out there to put it in writing; create the basis; and respond to folks who read it.

That's why we are all reading this today! Thanks, Noland!

take care all - and be safe!
Mark


thx,
Mark

[David B.]

Re: Radio ECL's 1967

#1 EE does nor represent the Radio code.
#2 EE simply tells production how many similar equipped units have the radio installed.
#3 Noland did not include because 1966 & 1967 production records do not breakout. They simple state for 1966 All 26,363
and for 1967 All 22,193

[Jack M.]

Re: Radio ECL's 1967

David- I respect your info/knowledge (THANX for sharing)... hoping you can explain what we see in more detail.

You've indicated that the EE we are observing on documentation does NOT represent the Radio Code...
And that EE simply tells production how many similar equipped units have the radio installed.
How is that different than the other ECL codes we typically see on Window/Tank Stickers...
Or are NONE of these document codes representative of an ECL code?

Looking at the Tank Sticker from Mark, coupled with the Window/Tank Stickers below... what do the Radio Code numbers represent?
Every one of them (with very specific options) seems to coincide with Noland's list... except he omitted the EE listing (and perhaps EB).
If these are not ECL codes... what proper term is used to classify them?

UPDATED LIST (limited to L36 & L68) - IMAGES BELOW:
390 withOUT C60 = EA (2-vehicles)
390 with N14 = FA (3-vehicles)
390 with C60 & N14 = FB (2-vehicle)
400 withOUT C60 = EE (2-vehicles)
400 with C60 = EF (2-vehicle)

Radio-EA-01.jpg Radio-EA-02.jpg Radio-EE-01.jpg Radio-EE-02.jpg Radio-EF-01.jpg Radio-EF-02.jpg Radio-FA-01.jpg Radio-FA-02.jpg Radio-FA-03.jpg Radio-FB-01.jpgRadio-FB-02.jpg

[David B.]

Re: Radio ECL's 1967

Jack, agreed on the EE code.
this is a copy of my Tank Sticker
[ATTACH=CONFIG]99202[/ATTACH]

Time and space does not allow interpreting all those posted tank stickers but this is a good example:
02 is code for Corvette, middle digits are option, last 2 are quantity produced with similar equipped units.
02418AA Dark Blue trim 1,816
02L36AA L36 engine 5,933
02K66AD Trans. ign. L36 449
02G81NA 3.70 Axle 3,025
02M21AA Trans L36-71 7,789
02U69EE radio ALL 22,193
02J50MA Vacuum Power Brakes 1,126
02L68AA 427 Hi Perf. Tri,Bbl. used with RPO-L36 2,101
02N11AA Off Road Exhaust 2,326
02N36AA Telescopic steering shaft 2,415
02P92AA 775 x 15.4 WSW no quantity listed, probably too many etc. etc.

[Tim G.]

Re: Radio ECL's 1967



ECL code EE was added after production started for L68 without AC and without sidepipes.. Before the addition of ECL code EE both L36 and L68 options without AC and without sidepipes were included in ECL code EA. Nolan probably had early data before ECL code EE was included. There should be a code EE in his book for L68 without AC and without sidepipes.