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  • Elliott P.
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    • February 5, 2018
    • 65

    #16

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    • Alan D.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • January 1, 2005
      • 2027

      #17
      Re: C2 ground straps

      Elliott, have the exact thing on my 64, ie no tap on the drivers side.
      Now the 64AIM calls to have ground strap on the "RH Engine Mount Asm" and the 63 Shop Manual, 13-11, calls out the same thing.
      Well we keep learning and hopefully the JGs will reflect these things in time.

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      • Rick B.
        Very Frequent User
        • April 11, 2010
        • 140

        #18
        Re: C2 ground straps

        Gary, wanted to get this to you here, have you and the forum weigh in. I took a quick pic of some loose straps i have. In the pic i have included what each measured while comparing to Nolans measurements in vol 2. There are differences at least of these to Nolan's specs. Also, took my best guess on application and corresponding part number (noted in left margin). I guess my question is are any of these original? I think 1 and 4 surely must be. I believe 2 is a repro (difference in braid). In 3, Have you seen gold ends? Widths to your original question, seem to be pretty consistent. Look forward to hearing your observations. Exhaust straps coming in next post.

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        • Gary B.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • February 1, 1997
          • 6979

          #19
          Re: C2 ground straps

          Rick,

          On what page did you find the measurements in Noland’s book? (Edit: Found it, page 173-174.)

          You can see a portion of an accelerator ground strap in the upper right hand photo on page 421 in Noland’s book; on an L79 engine.

          And I think another glimpse in the lower photo on page 282, on a big block engine.

          Noland’s book indicates the motor mount ground strap (2981856) is longer than the accelerator lever strap (2981858); 5.3” vs 4.4” between hole centers. The 5.3” hole center length matches up well with one of the straps in the LIC repro kit, but that only leaves the longest LIC strap (6.125” between hole centers) for the accelerator lever, which is much longer than the 4.4” length that Noland gives.

          Gary

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          • Gary B.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • February 1, 1997
            • 6979

            #20
            Re: C2 ground straps

            Originally posted by Rick Barrack (51664)
            ?..In 3, Have you seen gold ends? ...
            Rick,

            After soaking an original exhaust clamp ground strap in vinegar for 24 hours, rinsing and brushing with a brass bristle brush, the non-rectangular end has a copper hue, like it was copper plated. Could that be your gold look?

            Gary

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            • Rick B.
              Very Frequent User
              • April 11, 2010
              • 140

              #21
              Re: C2 ground straps

              Gary Good suggestion I'll do that. The gold look certainly could be, Infact closer examination of the body mount strap has evidence of "gold" too.
              As for the measurements, Yes my measurements were overall length, I didn't bother with hole distance but certainly will check. Your seeing what I discovered as well. Not really sure where Nolan got his measurements or if repro are accurate. My straps that are loose is a very small sample which also doesn't help verify things. Either way I tried to match these to Nolan and not the LI (I don't have that kit or the measurements) Would be interesting to lay the Long Island ones out and compare to Nolans specs and see where there maybe discrepancies.

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              • Gary B.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • February 1, 1997
                • 6979

                #22
                Re: C2 ground straps

                Elliot,





                that should be made clear in the judging guide


                Gary

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                • Gary B.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • February 1, 1997
                  • 6979

                  #23

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                  • Gary B.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • February 1, 1997
                    • 6979

                    #24

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                    • Rick B.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • April 11, 2010
                      • 140

                      #25
                      Re: C2 ground straps

                      Gary so if I am understanding the outcome and applying logic correctly; in the LI kit the longest strap is the anomaly and is likely a non typical length. A person has a choice to make using this kit. Use the 5.3 for the motor mount per Nolans measurement and reserve the really long strap for the accelerator (atypical) or Use the kit as supplied which results in BOTH the motor mount and the accelerator being atypical.

                      Wonder if there are other kits that are more accurate.

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                      • Gary B.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • February 1, 1997
                        • 6979

                        #26
                        Re: C2 ground straps

                        Originally posted by Rick Barrack (51664)
                        Gary so if I am understanding the outcome and applying logic correctly; in the LI kit the longest strap is the anomaly and is likely a non typical length. A person has a choice to make using this kit. Use the 5.3 for the motor mount per Nolans measurement and reserve the really long strap for the accelerator (atypical) or Use the kit as supplied which results in BOTH the motor mount and the accelerator being atypical.

                        Wonder if there are other kits that are more accurate.
                        Rick,

                        You have summarized the issue correctly.

                        Gary

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                        • Gary B.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • February 1, 1997
                          • 6979

                          #27
                          Re: C2 ground straps

                          Rick,

                          Corvette Central sells the straps individually. Buying both the accelerator lever and motor mount strap would cost $24.70 including S&H&tax. They don’t list the lengths unfortunately. At worst, I guess I’d probably wind up with an identical pair from what I have now to choose from.

                          I just went to Dr. Rebuild’s website. Is he open for business again?

                          Gary

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                          • Richard M.
                            Super Moderator
                            • August 31, 1988
                            • 11302

                            #28
                            Re: C2 ground straps

                            Gary here are some photos of what I have with lengths marked. Let me know if anything here helps.... Rich

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                            • Gary B.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • February 1, 1997
                              • 6979

                              #29

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                              • Richard M.
                                Super Moderator
                                • August 31, 1988
                                • 11302

                                #30
                                Re: C2 ground straps

                                I may have more around but I did spend a good hour looking for them yesterday in my C2 parts collection. Finally found them in a bag marked C1. Go figure.

                                Yes the 5 long straps are C1. 2 long ones at the bottom are C1 antenna straps that go in the trunk. IIRC both original but different terminals. 3 at top are repros.

                                Not sure of the others but most are repros, except that old 5 1/2" piece that may be a C1 engine to frame bracket strap. I thought I had more C2 straps, probably find them when I look for other stuff. This is part of what I was rummaging through. What a mess. Need to organize better...... Rich
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