terminal part number needed

[Jeffrey S.]

Re: terminal part number needed

Nope.
Pic borrowed from random search; its a "somewhat" accurate repro.


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Patrick,
I haven't looked at the one on my '69 lately (it's well hidden behind the shield) but if I remember correctly it is a 90 degree fitting. Also, the fabric insulation on most repros and what is available in bulk is larger than original. There is a fabric the right size from Naragansit (sp) and my guess is that the Dr. has the right size.
Jeff

[Richard M.]

Re: terminal part number needed

AAhh ok thanks.

I goofed up.... I was tinkering on stuff and found a old 67 engine harness. I actually recovered and restored that terminal I pictured. I like mini-part challenges. I've done silly stuff like this many times as I'm impatient and would rather fix what I have sometimes.

I was going to mail it to Mark. BTW, this original terminal was both crimped and soldered.

I'd think Mark you could do the same if you can't get one easily..... But I see Ken just offered. Nice.

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[Joe L.]

Re: terminal part number needed

Patrick,
I haven't looked at the one on my '69 lately (it's well hidden behind the shield) but if I remember correctly it is a 90 degree fitting. Also, the fabric insulation on most repros and what is available in bulk is larger than original. There is a fabric the right size from Naragansit (sp) and my guess is that the Dr. has the right size.
Jeff

Jeff------

1968-71 Corvettes used a temp sender with a pin type terminal. The connector was similar to the one shown in Patrick's post. C2 and 1972+ C3 used a blade type terminal with a connector the style shown in Rich's post.

The pin terminal temp senders were discontinued many years ago and replaced by the blade terminal senders. Of course, this requires a change in the connector for 1968-71 Corvettes. If yours currently has a blade terminal sender and connector, then I'd say yours has been replaced somewhere along the way.

[Mark G.]

Re: terminal part number needed

Nope.
Pic borrowed from random search; its a "somewhat" accurate repro.


[ATTACH=CONFIG]102940[/ATTACH]

This is what I have, not a female spade terminal. This would be the terminal I need the part number for. Thanks to all for your replies, ideas, and suggestions.
Mark

[Tom E.]

Re: terminal part number needed

Late to the party for this repair but if anyone is interested here is a site that sell a fair amount of type 56 connectors

https://theelectricaldepot.com/weather-pack-delphi-connectors/delphi-packard-metri-pack-56/delphi-2989877-56-series-female-12-ga-terminal-br-25-pack?zenid=e9f1b2f8b933074efa26f8420ed1215d

Tom

[Jeffrey S.]

Re: terminal part number needed

Jeff------

1968-71 Corvettes used a temp sender with a pin type terminal. The connector was similar to the one shown in Patrick's post. C2 and 1972+ C3 used a blade type terminal with a connector the style shown in Rich's post.

The pin terminal temp senders were discontinued many years ago and replaced by the blade terminal senders. Of course, this requires a change in the connector for 1968-71 Corvettes. If yours currently has a blade terminal sender and connector, then I'd say yours has been replaced somewhere along the way.

Joe,
Thanks for the response. My car still has the original pin terminal and connector. As I said, it has been a long time since I looked at the wire/connector and I remember it as being a 90 degree but maybe I'm just thinking of something else. I do know that the sender is the pin type and I have another as a spare.
Jeff

[Mark G.]

Re: terminal part number needed

If you can't find just 1, then PM & I'll fix you up with the right stuff.

Thanks Ken. PM sent

[Richard T.]

Re: terminal part number needed

pushed the insulation up a few inches, cut, spliced,soldered, and heat shrunk connection. Original insulation covers the splice.

[Mark G.]

Re: terminal part number needed

here is a picture of the terminal. Notice it is oval and not round. Wonder why GM did that?coolant temp sender terminal.jpg

[James G.]

Re: terminal part number needed

When attempting to spread apart and re-use original terminals I have found it necessary to ANNEAL the terminals prior to attempting to re-crimp them so that the brass doesn't crack or outright break, I have had them crack when trying to remove from a wire so I began annealing them prior to removal from an old harness.

Great tip on using a drill to remove the wires!!!

FWIW here is another source on packard terminals and crimpers.

http://www.texasindustrialelectric.com/_packard_terminals.asp

[Gary B.]

Re: terminal part number needed

James,

What is your process for annealing the terminals?

Gary

[Joe L.]

Re: terminal part number needed

here is a picture of the terminal. Notice it is oval and not round. Wonder why GM did that?[ATTACH=CONFIG]103076[/ATTACH]

Mark------


I do not recall the original 1968-71 GM temp sender connector as being "oval" shaped. I recall it as being round. The insulator which surrounded the connector was sort of oval shaped, though. The terminal on the temp sender was definitely round and definitely not oval shaped.

[Joe L.]

Re: terminal part number needed

Jeff------

1968-71 Corvettes used a temp sender with a pin type terminal. The connector was similar to the one shown in Patrick's post. C2 and 1972+ C3 used a blade type terminal with a connector the style shown in Rich's post.

The pin terminal temp senders were discontinued many years ago and replaced by the blade terminal senders. Of course, this requires a change in the connector for 1968-71 Corvettes. If yours currently has a blade terminal sender and connector, then I'd say yours has been replaced somewhere along the way.

I need to make an important correction to this post. Specifically, the temp sender for C2 Corvettes and 72-78 Corvettes DID NOT have a blade type terminal. Those temp senders had a BUTTON-TYPE terminal. These senders did use the type connector as depicted in Rich Mozzetta's post #17, above.

Corvettes did not get a blade terminal type sender until the 1979 model year.

With a BUTTON TYPE terminal sender, the connector attaches at a 90 degree angle. With a BLADE TYPE terminal sender, the connector attaches "straight on"

[James G.]

Re: terminal part number needed

I just use a small torch and heat it up - it is annealed when the color changes, you can tell when it changes.

[Gary B.]

Re: terminal part number needed

James,

Heat it up until red? Or is there some more subtle color change that occurs at a lower temperature, prior to getting it red hot?

Gary