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  • Michael J.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • January 27, 2009
    • 7073

    "Clocking" horns....1963

    I see the description in the TIM&JG about how the '63 horns should be clocked, but what part of the horn is used to determine the "clocking"? Thanks.
    Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico
  • Harry S.
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    • July 31, 2002
    • 5258

    #2
    Re: "Clocking" horns....1963

    Here ya go..

    '63 107a.jpg


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    • Michael J.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • January 27, 2009
      • 7073

      #3
      Re: "Clocking" horns....1963

      OK, so the outer end of the horn "bell" would then be the hand of the clock?
      Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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      • Harry S.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • July 31, 2002
        • 5258

        #4
        Re: "Clocking" horns....1963

        Mike, unless someone took it completely apart and put it back together incorrectly, there is only one way to mount it with both openings facing each other.


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        • Michael J.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • January 27, 2009
          • 7073

          #5
          Re: "Clocking" horns....1963

          Mine, (455 and 456, correct dates) which I just had rebuilt and restored by The Horn Works, have the bells facing outboard. The TIM&JG says that is acceptable if "clocked" at 5 and 7, left and right. I am just trying to figure out what part of the horn is the hand of the clock.
          Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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          • Leif A.
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            • August 31, 1997
            • 3607

            #6
            Re: "Clocking" horns....1963

            Originally posted by Michael Johnson (49879)
            Mine, (455 and 456, correct dates) which I just had rebuilt and restored by The Horn Works, have the bells facing outboard. The TIM&JG says that is acceptable if "clocked" at 5 and 7, left and right. I am just trying to figure out what part of the horn is the hand of the clock.
            Michael,
            Look closely at the picture that Harry posted and you can see the 7 o'clock position of the right hand horn. Driver's side oriented at 5 o'clock. The Horn Works does nice work, don't they?
            Leif
            '67 Coupe L79, M21, C60, N14, N40, J50, A31, U69, A01, QB1
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            • Tom E.
              Very Frequent User
              • June 1, 2019
              • 448

              #7
              Re: "Clocking" horns....1963

              I don’t have a 63 AIM but on my 67 AIM it shows the Hi note horn on the right and the Low n the left side. In this configuration the horn “clocking” can only go one way, especially if the horns are original. Aftermarket horns... I would assume the same but who knows.
              Tom

              696D8254-E59C-495C-8769-A9572DAE3397.jpg

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              • Michael J.
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                • January 27, 2009
                • 7073

                #8
                Re: "Clocking" horns....1963

                That shows the difference with the '63 horns I have. The mounting bolt is above the horn on mine, these are below.
                Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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                • Michael J.
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                  • January 27, 2009
                  • 7073

                  #9
                  Re: "Clocking" horns....1963

                  horns_2ed80b882fdc484ea794b4a236380d25188b2769.jpgOK, when in doubt, check the AIM. It appears whoever restored my car, mounted the horns on the wrong bolt of the core support, using the upper one instead of the lower one. If I use the lower one, then it all makes sense.......back to the garage.....
                  Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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                  • Tom E.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • June 1, 2019
                    • 448

                    #10
                    Re: "Clocking" horns....1963

                    I definitely see the difference after looking at your 63 AIM. Glad you figured it out.

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                    • Harry S.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • July 31, 2002
                      • 5258

                      #11
                      Re: "Clocking" horns....1963

                      Originally posted by Michael Johnson (49879)
                      [ATTACH=CONFIG]103966[/ATTACH]OK, when in doubt, check the AIM. It appears whoever restored my car, mounted the horns on the wrong bolt of the core support, using the upper one instead of the lower one. If I use the lower one, then it all makes sense.......back to the garage.....

                      This is incorrect. The openings need to face each other so the high note and low note blend.


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                      • Michael J.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • January 27, 2009
                        • 7073

                        #12
                        Re: "Clocking" horns....1963

                        Maybe that is where the "clocking" comes in? Is the mounting on the lower bolt on the core support correct? I need to get a correct AIM I guess.
                        Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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                        • David K.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • September 30, 1979
                          • 238

                          #13
                          Re: "Clocking" horns....1963

                          Michael,
                          Your 1963 AIM is correct Sect. 12 A7.00 Bell of the horn pointing down.
                          1964 AIM Sect. 12 A6.00 The bell of the horns are kinda pointing toward each other.
                          Check it out.

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                          • Joseph S.
                            National Judging Chairman
                            • March 1, 1985
                            • 831

                            #14
                            Re: "Clocking" horns....1963

                            Mike, The horns mount to the raised reinforcement. There is a rob molded below the bolt hole that keeps the horn straight. As the others have indicated, as long as you have the horns mounted so they blow towards the center of the car, you will judge fine.

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                            • Michael J.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • January 27, 2009
                              • 7073

                              #15
                              Re: "Clocking" horns....1963

                              Thanks Joe, now that I know the bolt they are supposed to mount to, they will clock out fine.
                              Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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