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  • Dan M.
    Frequent User
    • February 1, 2000
    • 97

    66 brake line routing/connection

    Need some assistance with the rear to front brake line routing and connection. These are new brake lines and I expect to make some minor bends to make it all fit. So far so good. But the last couple feet of this section seem to require more than a small tweak. Am I correct that it gets routed up to and fastened to the green clip inboard of the clutch rod bracket? And no other fasteners to the block? Unfortunately i don't have a good pic before I took it all apart. The AIM i believe suggests this but I thought I better be sure before I make a big mess. As I said it will require quite a bend.
    I only removed 5 bolted fasteners originally and they are all back bolted the frame. So if there is another fastener, I didn't have it. I couldn't find anything online that had a clear indication for me.
    Appreciate any pics of this if you have it thanks guys.
    Dan
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  • Robert W.
    Expired
    • June 28, 2018
    • 134

    #2
    Re: 66 brake line routing/connection

    Hi Dan,

    Here's my chassis (1966 J50 power brakes) with the front lines laid out (green clip for the front line not in place). Not sure if this helps or not?
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    • Tom E.
      Very Frequent User
      • June 1, 2019
      • 448

      #3
      Re: 66 brake line routing/connection

      The clip by the clutch rod is for the line coming from the left front distribution block. I think you can see in the below photo, there is a clip that holds the 2 lines together about a foot down from the master cylinder. My lines required a bit of tweaking to get them aligned right. My car is a 67 but I believe it is the same. Mine has power brakes.
      Tom

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      • Dan M.
        Frequent User
        • February 1, 2000
        • 97

        #4
        Re: 66 brake line routing/connection

        I think the 66 w/o power brakes is a little different. I have one line coming from the mc to the front left brake block and connects to the top side of that block. The brake line coming from the rear enters the same block. I think part of my problem is I only have one "green" clip on the frame nearest to the clutch bracket. I think there is supposed to be 2. The one inboard of the bracket I believe secures the brake line coming form the mc. The other clip (which I don't have) I think may be outboard of the clutch bracket and secures the brake line coming from the rear. I'm not positive (at all!) that this is correct. If it is then I need a clip and some serious bending to this brake line.
        So if there is a 66 std brake car out there with an overhead pic of this area that should tell me.
        Tks Tom appreciate the help

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        • Tom E.
          Very Frequent User
          • June 1, 2019
          • 448

          #5
          Re: 66 brake line routing/connection

          Dan,
          You are correct, I should have researched some. This diagram by Keen Corvette may be a help, it is a 66 standard brake diagram. Hope it helps.
          Tom

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          • Robert W.
            Expired
            • June 28, 2018
            • 134

            #6
            Re: 66 brake line routing/connection

            Hi Dan,

            You need someone here to grab a picture of those lines for the single master and post it. Here's what I have of from my copy of the 1966 AIM. It seems you have some massaging of the line to do, but an actual picture will probably clear it up best!
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            • Dan M.
              Frequent User
              • February 1, 2000
              • 97

              #7
              Re: 66 brake line routing/connection

              Yes exactly, the AIM shows it but it's not 100% clear to me from that pic.
              My car is an April 20, 1966 car if that makes any difference wrt types of clips etc.
              An overhead picture of that area would be helpful otherwise I feel like I'm guessing .
              Appreciate it, tls
              Dan

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              • Gary B.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • February 1, 1997
                • 6979

                #8
                Re: 66 brake line routing/connection

                Originally posted by Tom England (65936)
                Dan,
                You are correct, I should have researched some. This diagram by Keen Corvette may be a help, it is a 66 standard brake diagram. Hope it helps.
                Tom

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                • Tom E.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • June 1, 2019
                  • 448

                  #9
                  Re: 66 brake line routing/connection

                  Thanks Gary! I found a few more images showing what you discussed but I’m hesitant to post anything that confuses the OP question. Each year has many running changes and unless you are experienced in that year it’s easy to miss items. I followed the AIM and judging manual as much as possible when restoring my 67 but I’m sure I missed stuff an experienced judge would pick right up. Hopefully someone here on the board will see his post and provide a photo to help. Paper data is great but nothing beats a correct hi-res photo!
                  Tom

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                  • Gary B.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • February 1, 1997
                    • 6979

                    #10

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                    • Dan M.
                      Frequent User
                      • February 1, 2000
                      • 97

                      #11
                      Re: 66 brake line routing/connection

                      Tks guys for the interest, we'll see if someone can post a pic. Paragon has a good diagram of the brake line routing in their c2 catalogue. They show the line that runs from the rear to the front passing on the outboard side of the clutch frame bracket and attached by a green clip. They clearly show 2 green clips in that area. The second one secures the line running from the mc to the left brake block. The diagram is for a std brake car but... i believe this diagram is for a 64 not a 66.
                      And I did read on an very old post where someone was researching a change in the 66 model year where they went from 2 clips to 1. But it wasn't clear as to exactly when that may have occurred. Perhaps mine only had the 1. If so which line did it secure? The picture i have of that area is too distant and dark unfortunately.

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                      • Richard M.
                        Super Moderator
                        • August 31, 1988
                        • 11302

                        #12
                        Re: 66 brake line routing/connection

                        I put a new frame under a '66 a few years ago and found a few photos that may help. I recall I had a tricky time getting that forward part of the line in position properly as the pre-bent line didn't fit right out of the box. This may not be TFP but it worked. I spent a lot of time getting it to satisfy me. Non Power Brake car.

                        As I look at the bottom photo I now recall the line interfering with the steering box so I had to "t w e a k" it a bit to traverse by it.

                        Rich

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                        • Dan M.
                          Frequent User
                          • February 1, 2000
                          • 97

                          #13
                          Re: 66 brake line routing/connection

                          Tks Richard thats helpful. So based on the pic you do not have a 2nd green clip either. You ran it the same way I was going to run it. So do you recall the line to the mc? Was it not secured to anything? I dont recall mine being attached, its a short run and probably doesn't need it.
                          And yes I agree the pre bent line is not that close for a 66 and requires some work.
                          Appreciate it, tks
                          Dan

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                          • Richard M.
                            Super Moderator
                            • August 31, 1988
                            • 11302

                            #14
                            Re: 66 brake line routing/connection

                            I may have some engine bay photos showing that I'll check when back home., but iirc it just sits in airspace.

                            Rich

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                            • Gary B.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • February 1, 1997
                              • 6979

                              #15
                              Re: 66 brake line routing/connection

                              Rich,

                              Thanks for the tip of installing the steering box before the brake line. I was planning on doing it in the opposite order.

                              Gary

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