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  • Gary B.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • February 1, 1997
    • 6979

    Pitman arm nut and socket size







    Gary
  • Edward J.
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    • September 15, 2008
    • 6940

    #2
    New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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    • Gary B.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • February 1, 1997
      • 6979

      #3

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      • Gary R.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • April 1, 1989
        • 1796

        #4
        Re: Pitman arm nut and socket size

        The original nuts are thinner then new ones. I use 1 5/16 socket on all of them without a problem. I always install a new nut and torque them to 145-150ft/lb with new lock washer. I will check both new and original when I go back out to my shop and let you know the dimensions.

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        • Gary B.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • February 1, 1997
          • 6979

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          • Alan D.
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            • January 1, 2005
            • 2027

            #6
            Re: Pitman arm nut and socket size

            Although not for 66 (it's a Mar64) mine has never been off, measures 1.34

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            • Gary B.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • February 1, 1997
              • 6979

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              • Alan D.
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                • January 1, 2005
                • 2027

                #8
                Re: Pitman arm nut and socket size

                1.323 - need to zero first And lots of blackout on it still which I believe GM used.

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                • Gary B.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • February 1, 1997
                  • 6979

                  #9
                  Re: Pitman arm nut and socket size

                  Akan,

                  Counting the layer of paint, it sounds like you have the proper sized nut.

                  Gary

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                  • Gary R.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • April 1, 1989
                    • 1796

                    #10
                    Re: Pitman arm nut and socket size

                    I checked an original 7/8-14 nut and a new one I use as well as the 1 5/16 3/4" drive socket I use.

                    original nut= .439 thick, 1.305 hex across the flats
                    new nut= .500 thick, 1.305 across the flats
                    socket - 1.350 between flats, I don't have a metric socket to compare but never had a problem torquing the nuts.

                    Then I checked the nut on an original 68 box I am starting on today- same size as the original nut I previously checked.

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                    • Gary B.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • February 1, 1997
                      • 6979

                      #11
                      Re: Pitman arm nut and socket size

                      Gary,

                      I assume your new nuts are not from Long Island Corvette?

                      Gary

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                      • Gary R.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • April 1, 1989
                        • 1796

                        #12
                        Re: Pitman arm nut and socket size

                        They are not from LICS, they are standard plated 7/8-14 nuts.

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                        • Gary B.
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                          • February 1, 1997
                          • 6979

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                          • Joe L.
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                            • February 1, 1988
                            • 43193

                            #14
                            Re: Pitman arm nut and socket size

                            Originally posted by Gary Beaupre (28818)
                            Gary,

                            The 33 mm socket I just bought is 1.308” between flats. It fits the 1.280” nut from Long Island Corvette much better than a 1-5/16” socket, which as you measured is 1.350”, not the nominal 1.3125” value. For the 1.305” nuts you buy, the 33 mm socket might be too tight of a fit.

                            Gary

                            Gary------


                            I have had this problem with the fitment of the 1-5/16" socket on the pitman arm retaining nut. I consider the fitment of the nut in the socket to be "sloppy". However, a 1-5/16" socket will work but I use only a 6 point socket, never a 12 point. The industry standard across-the-flats size for a 7/8-14 nut (which is what the pitman nut is) is 1-5/16".

                            Unknown to many, there were actually 2 different nuts used. 1963-74 used nut GM #258779 which is an ancient part number. 1975-82 used nut GM #5667628. The former was discontinued in April, 1975 and replaced by the latter for SERVICE of all 1963-74 Corvettes. I actually have examples of both nuts and they appear to be identical in every way. Measured with my digital caliper I find both to be 1.285" across-the-flats. This is actually equivalent to 1-9/32". Once-upon-a-time I looked for a socket of that size and never found one.

                            A 1-5/16" 6 point socket is 1.3275" across-the-flats. With the pitman nut at 1.285", I think this explains the sloppy fit. But, it will work. The 33mm socket might be a better solution.
                            In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                            • David B.
                              Very Frequent User
                              • March 1, 1980
                              • 687

                              #15
                              Re: Pitman arm nut and socket size

                              Part #s really help: 258779 & 5667628 are Saginaw Steering Gear Division numbers used by all GM Divisions. Listed in GRP. 6.861

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