What to do if car owner refuses to sign judging sheets?

[Ed D.]

Does the car owner receive a flight judging award if, after meeting with the team leader and judging chairman, he still refuses to sign the judging sheet?

[Harry S.]

Re: What to do if car owner refuses to sign judging sheets?

Ed, I would think yes. My logic is that you would be entering his score into the system, thus a record of the cars achievement. The owner would probably refuse the ribbon also.

[Richard M.]

Re: What to do if car owner refuses to sign judging sheets?

I would think not. Must sign for any award as I recall.

But if there's a conflict the owner could then raise it to the Judging Chairman.

[Richard M.]

Re: What to do if car owner refuses to sign judging sheets?

Ra-Ro.... 50-50. But Harry's more up on it than me.

[Arland D.]

Re: What to do if car owner refuses to sign judging sheets?

After reviewing the score sheets, the owner or representative must initial each sheet to confirm the review has taken place. No score sheet will be accepted for tabulation without the initials. The final score will be determined by using only those score sheets that have been initialed.

[David B.]

Re: What to do if car owner refuses to sign judging sheets?

If an owner refuses to sign/initial a certain score sheet, that section will be scored as full 100% deduction for originality, condition and/or Ops, as the case may be. A zero score on a complete section is a very stiff penalty. Once the entire score is determined (with the zero score), if the owner has earned a Flight, Concours or other award, a certificate may be prepared and mailed.

While we are on the topic of signature/initials, the owner does not have an infinite time period to decide if he/she will initial the score sheet. The judge or team leader should allow a reasonable amount of time for signature/initials, but not an extended period where each deduction is debated.

As Arland said, the initials merely indicate that the sheet was reviewed with the owner, not that the owner necessarily agrees with what is written on the sheet.

When such a situation arises, the judge should get the team leader involved.

[Ed D.]

Re: What to do if car owner refuses to sign judging sheets?

Dave, thank you for your input and clarification. Hopefully this will never occur, but I was wondering what the official process would be.
Ed

[Mark E.]

Re: What to do if car owner refuses to sign judging sheets?

As Arland said, the initials merely indicate that the sheet was reviewed with the owner, not that the owner necessarily agrees with what is written on the sheet.

Makes sense. Just like signing a traffic ticket isn't an admission of guilt.

[Mike D.]

Re: What to do if car owner refuses to sign judging sheets?

Well, at least we will be prepared if it happens.