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  • Brian E.
    Very Frequent User
    • May 28, 2018
    • 234

    Atypical Stamps On 1967 Rally Wheels?

    I'm pursing another set of 4-5 rally wheels for a 1967 Corvette and a seller recently sent me pix of his wheels. The stamps of his wheels caught me off guard because none of the 9 large DC stamped wheels that I already have have any of the the "extra" stamps that the seller's wheels do. The only stamp on my wheels near the valve stem are the letters DC, and nothing else.

    There is nothing in the judging guide about these "extra" stamps. What the "extra" stamps are about? Could the seller's wheels be for a different model of GM vehicle?

    Here are 2 pictures of the 1967 Corvette rally wheels that I have that match the description in the judging guide.
    PXL_20210609_171119437 - Copy.jpg

    PXL_20210609_171053969 - Copy.jpg


    Here are the pictures of the wheels from the seller.
    1.jpg

    2.jpg

    3.jpg

    Unusual.jpg
  • Mark F.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • July 31, 1998
    • 1468

    #2
    Re: Atypical Stamps On 1967 Rally Wheels?

    Originally posted by Brian Esch (64818)
    There is nothing in the judging guide about these "extra" stamps. What the "extra" stamps are about? Could the seller's wheels be for a different model of GM vehicle?...
    Hi Brian,

    Try getting your hands on this Restorer Article written by Wendel Hans...it will probably answer your question

    AUTHENTICATING 1967 RALLY WHEELS Volume 36 issue #3 WINTER 2010
    thx,
    Mark

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    • Brian E.
      Very Frequent User
      • May 28, 2018
      • 234

      #3
      Re: Atypical Stamps On 1967 Rally Wheels?

      How do I do that?

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      • Mark F.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • July 31, 1998
        • 1468

        #4
        Re: Atypical Stamps On 1967 Rally Wheels?

        Originally posted by Brian Esch (64818)
        How do I do that?
        Ask Vinnie Peters (Restorer Editor) - he may have a pdf of it that he can share.
        click on his name below (moderator) and his email link should be there for you...or it's also under the contacts pull-down links
        thx,
        Mark

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        • Larry M.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • January 1, 1992
          • 2688

          #5
          Re: Atypical Stamps On 1967 Rally Wheels?

          At one time we could purchase a CD for 1967 model with all the Restorer articles on them. I have one. Check Driveline and with Vinnie...as they still may be available. Between the two, you should find what you seek.

          I am thinking (guessing) that wheels were not for a 1967 Corvette, but perhaps another model. DC refers to the line or machine that made/formed the wheels. The K and the 12 and 7 seem to tell me they might be for a 1968 model of something.

          But my comments need to be verified. If all else fails, I may be able to copy or link the article, or send you the CD.

          Larry

          EDIT: Old Restorer CD still available in NCRS Stores. I just checked. So you can buy now if you desire.

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          • Philip T.
            Infrequent User
            • September 21, 2015
            • 21

            #6
            Re: Atypical Stamps On 1967 Rally Wheels?

            I may be wrong, but I believe that these are service replacement wheels.

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            • Jeff S.
              Very Frequent User
              • July 31, 1984
              • 383

              #7
              Re: Atypical Stamps On 1967 Rally Wheels?

              "Small Font" DC w/date info stampings represents service replacement or post '67 model year metal car application. (Not OEM '67 Corvette, but perfectly serviceable regarding form/fit/function.

              K1 = Kelsey Hayes, Romulus plant
              7 = 1967
              (then valve stem hole)
              12 = December
              7 = 7th DOM

              Photo below is another example of same vintage of 15x6 rally - Kelsey Hayes, Romulus, 1968, April 11th
              Attached Files

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              • Brian E.
                Very Frequent User
                • May 28, 2018
                • 234

                #8
                Re: Atypical Stamps On 1967 Rally Wheels?

                Wow. Thanks Jeff.

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                • Jimmy G.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • November 1, 1979
                  • 975

                  #9
                  Re: Atypical Stamps On 1967 Rally Wheels?

                  First wheel is a DG not DC Rest are service replacement. Try to insert a quarter in the openings and you will see the difference quickly
                  Founder - Carolinas Chapter NCRS

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                  • Jeff S.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • July 31, 1984
                    • 383

                    #10
                    Re: Atypical Stamps On 1967 Rally Wheels?

                    Originally posted by Jimmy Gregg (2756)
                    First wheel is a DG not DC Rest are service replacement. Try to insert a quarter in the openings and you will see the difference quickly
                    Believe the quarter-insert method works only to identify "YS" code 15x6 rally wheels. All other 15x6 (DG, DC big, DC small, FI, DF) will readily pass a quarter radially through the slot; not so for "YS".
                    Attached Files

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                    • Brian E.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • May 28, 2018
                      • 234

                      #11
                      Re: Atypical Stamps On 1967 Rally Wheels?

                      Originally posted by Philip Tarallo (61635)
                      I may be wrong, but I believe that these are service replacement wheels.
                      I think you are correct Philip. Thank you.

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                      • Brian E.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • May 28, 2018
                        • 234

                        #12
                        Re: Atypical Stamps On 1967 Rally Wheels?

                        Originally posted by Jimmy Gregg (2756)
                        First wheel is a DG

                        Jimmy, if you say the first wheel (pictured above) is a DG wheel (which looks like a DC stamp to me), then what stamp is this?
                        PXL_20210610_231217374.jpg



                        I say this is a DC stamp...
                        DC.jpg

                        And this is a DG stamp.
                        PXL_20210610_231217374.jpg

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                        • Mark F.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • July 31, 1998
                          • 1468

                          #13
                          Re: Atypical Stamps On 1967 Rally Wheels?

                          Originally posted by Brian Esch (64818)
                          Jimmy, if you say the first wheel (pictured above) is a DG wheel (which looks like a DC stamp to me), then what stamp is this?
                          Hi Brian,

                          When you eventually get a copy of the Wendel Hans article, you will see he describes your stamp as a "DG" with a broken "G" cross bar. Note the end of the bottom curve of what you are calling a "C". Note that it is vertical rather than a pure curve like the top. My recollection is that he describes many wheels where the "G" stamp either got worn down, or broke; thus no cross bar on the "G" imbedding into the metal of the wheel. Hope this helps...
                          thx,
                          Mark

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                          • Timothy B.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • April 30, 1983
                            • 5177

                            #14
                            Re: Atypical Stamps On 1967 Rally Wheels?

                            On production 1967 Corvette wheels the stampings are taller than service or later years. I once owned two FI stamped 6" rally's that the quarter did NOT pass through the slots.

                            Original 67 production wheels have a B DC or DG stamp. The DG stamp in post #12 looks factory correct to me.

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                            • Brian E.
                              Very Frequent User
                              • May 28, 2018
                              • 234

                              #15
                              Re: Atypical Stamps On 1967 Rally Wheels?

                              Originally posted by Mark Francis (30800)
                              Hi Brian,

                              When you eventually get a copy of the Wendel Hans article, you will see he describes your stamp as a "DG" with a broken "G" cross bar. Note the end of the bottom curve of what you are calling a "C". Note that it is vertical rather than a pure curve like the top. My recollection is that he describes many wheels where the "G" stamp either got worn down, or broke; thus no cross bar on the "G" imbedding into the metal of the wheel. Hope this helps...
                              Understood. I too noticed and thought that the part of the C coming up from the bottom curve looked too straight - as if it was meant to be a G but without an obvious crossbar I thought whoever made the stamp(s) made them identical (an efficient manufacturing practice) EXCEPT for the crossbar. But now I understand that the wheels I pictured above as DC wheels are really DG wheels with a broken crossbar.

                              Thanks again Mark.

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