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  • Jerry G.
    Very Frequent User
    • February 1, 1989
    • 226

    #16
    Re: Going for Duntov

    Originally posted by Vinnie Peters (17535)
    Mr. Hinckley was incorrect.
    Thank you Vinnie

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    • Jerry G.
      Very Frequent User
      • February 1, 1989
      • 226

      #17

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      • Patrick H.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • December 1, 1989
        • 11608

        #18
        Re: Going for Duntov

        Originally posted by Jerry Garrett (14448)
        While I’m here, I assume the PV is done in any weather conditions?
        They will usually delay if its raining.
        I've not yet seen one done in snow, but I suppose its possible...
        Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
        71 "deer modified" coupe
        72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
        2008 coupe
        Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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        • Terry M.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • September 30, 1980
          • 15573

          #19
          Re: Going for Duntov

          Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
          They will usually delay if its raining.
          I've not yet seen one done in snow, but I suppose its possible...
          Patrick

          I am sure the Team Leader involved would take safety into consideration and postpone a PV due to inclement weather -- that could include snow or hail or other undefined events.

          When planning the trail to a Mark of Excellence Award (Duntov, McLellan, Hill Award) one should have a plan B or C for PV failures.

          BTW: The outline of the requirements for the MoE Awards are on Page 58 of the 9th Edition of the NCRS Judging Reference Manual. I recommend purchasing this Manual. It is the least expensive Manual we offer and I guarantee it will put you to sleep. However it does have answers to the question the OP asked as well as answers to questions you never thought to ask, including an explanation of the Matrix Judging System and a list of up-to-date Standard Deductions.
          Terry

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          • Stewart L.
            Very Frequent User
            • March 1, 1980
            • 351

            #20
            Re: Going for Duntov

            Originally posted by Jerry Garrett (14448)
            While I’m here, I assume the PV is done in any weather conditions?
            My latest PV was in Palm Springs, it was 100 degrees at 8 in the morning. An hour before start up, I put a bag of ice on the choke. We did the driving test with the top down so no worries about wind noise.
            I know of a member that did his PV in the rain and failed because of a water leak. Prepare for all possible conditions.
            Another suggestion is to find a mentor in your chapter that has previously PVd with your Team Leader. Each Team Leader has their “hot spots” and it best to know in advance. Also, a second set of eyes can see things that have been overlooked.

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            • Reba W.
              Very Frequent User
              • June 30, 1985
              • 932

              #21
              Re: Going for Duntov

              A rainstorm was a lifesaver when Dick PVed his 1969. Just before time to go, a storm came up and the test was postponed. When he started to move the car, the Restoration battery had died. The car passed the next day with a K-Mart special.

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              • Michael J.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • January 27, 2009
                • 7073

                #22
                Re: Going for Duntov

                I would certainly second Stewart's suggestion of practice PVs with experienced people. Many little nuances exist on how certain things get tested by various team leaders. Door detents come to mind. We have done this numerous times for our chapter members as chapter exercises.
                Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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                • Jaime G.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • April 1, 1988
                  • 480

                  #23
                  Re: Going for Duntov

                  I have succesfully PV'd 6 cars and Stewart's advice is the best one here. Each Team Leader looks at the test slightly different. By the way, there were 3 failures along the way so patience and preparation is very very important. To prepare, I did the test on each car at least 3 times at home before doing it for real.

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                  • Gary J.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • April 1, 1980
                    • 1229

                    #24
                    Re: Going for Duntov

                    Jerry, the first thing I would do would be purchase the Operation and PV book for the appropriate the year. This would be a good guide in getting you started. PV is not for the faint of hearth, a crap shoot at the best. I was talking to a guy in Joplin, MO years ago that had failed PV four times. A black ‘67 BB A/C coupe. Just remember if one item fail you do have a little time to fix. If the item fails again or another item fails during the same test you are done. What year are you considering for PV?

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                    • Mike M.
                      NCRS Past President
                      • May 31, 1974
                      • 8365

                      #25
                      Re: Going for Duntov

                      If a PV owner doesn't put at least 500 miles HIMSELF driving the PV candidate, at his home location, and with the help of the PV manual, his chances of passing the PV ARE SLIM. And the day or 2 before the actual PV, take the car out of the box trailer and run it around town at the PV site.i've done 12 c-1 and c-2's in the past, all passing the first time except a c-2 that required 2 trips for PV attempt before its passing. take all necessary parts as spares which can be substituted within the 15 minute "repair period" should one item fail. Also, it doesn't hurt to scare the shi# out of the PV judge during the PV run.its a contest u will never forget. mike mccagh

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                      • Ed H.
                        Frequent User
                        • July 19, 2014
                        • 58

                        #26
                        Re: Going for Duntov

                        Great practical advice Mike. The real key is does the owner know their PV candidate corvette and can they operate everything smoothly and confidently. As Mike said it will take miles and repetitive practice with the PV Operations Manual to achieve. The PV judge will be very observant of the PV owner operations.

                        Ed H

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                        • Ed D.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • December 1, 1990
                          • 329

                          #27
                          Re: Going for Duntov

                          Totally agree with Mike. I drove my care 120 miles to my PV, testing everything along the way. Passed on my first attempt. Then drove it home
                          Ed
                          Ed DiNapoli
                          CNJ Chapter Past Chairman/Co Founder

                          1972 Targa Blue Coupe, Original Owner,
                          Duntov Award, Sam Foltz Award,
                          Founders Award, NCRS Gallery VIII
                          2011 Corvette Convertible
                          NCRS Presidents Award 2014

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                          • Harry S.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • July 31, 2002
                            • 5258

                            #28
                            Re: Going for Duntov

                            Ed, good advice. I was just thinking. I'm the original owner of my 2006 and I can PV it next year, Where did the time go.


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                            • Ed D.
                              Very Frequent User
                              • December 1, 1990
                              • 329

                              #29
                              Re: Going for Duntov

                              Harry the time flies, but I cant wait until tomorrow, as I get better every day
                              Ed
                              Ed DiNapoli
                              CNJ Chapter Past Chairman/Co Founder

                              1972 Targa Blue Coupe, Original Owner,
                              Duntov Award, Sam Foltz Award,
                              Founders Award, NCRS Gallery VIII
                              2011 Corvette Convertible
                              NCRS Presidents Award 2014

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                              • Tim S.
                                Very Frequent User
                                • May 31, 1990
                                • 697

                                #30
                                Re: Going for Duntov

                                Originally posted by Mike McCagh (14)
                                take all necessary parts as spares which can be substituted within the 15 minute "repair period" should one item fail.
                                Has there been a "suggested list" of parts to take with?

                                Tim

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