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  • Mark F.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • July 31, 1998
    • 1468

    #31
    Re: NCRS Emergency Board of Directors Meeting October 29, 2022

    Originally posted by Keith Michaud (67636)
    I am a 37 year businessman and IT professional with Board experience. A couple points I would share. "Access" is a nebulous term. In IT parlance there is view, read, write, delete, etc access..so "access" alone is very generic and meaningless term. Second point.system and application administration are very different than business access. ONLY an IT professional should have what is often termed "god" access for purposes of preserving integrity of the data and system...
    Originally posted by Keith Michaud (67636)
    ...A point I meant to include in my last post...Lastly, and another separate comment. The core of the meeting centered around discussion of system/software/data management tasks that the President was responsible for.....and had been prevented with recent access change. None of my business and unsolicited advise but I would think there would be another role in the organization handling that sort of stuff to begin with. President should handle higher level stuff. President and probably all the Board should be able to view most anything...but changing/adding or updating is a different matter...
    Keith,

    Thanks for your informed points and insight...

    I would only add to what you have presented (and you know this) that even "view" and "print" access for certain portions of protected data and information can be security weak points.

    Without going into details, even locked pdfs and other protected software "views" can easily be extracted and post-processed if they are delivered to a user viewing it on a screen and the user knows how to do it...

    Rob Musquetier had it right when he stated what I consider to be the gold standard of controlling database access - proof of "Need-to-Know" for the "business requirements" must be demonstrated for the sub-parts of "access" you mention. Increased security of information that needs to be protected is inversely proportional to the number of people (roles and responsibilities) who are granted access to it (even if it's only a "view" or "print).
    thx,
    Mark

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    • Owen L.
      Very Frequent User
      • September 30, 1991
      • 838

      #32
      Re: NCRS Emergency Board of Directors Meeting October 29, 2022

      To the Facebook/Instagram discussion, I'll add that for any organization to have a presence on them is important. Like it or not, many folks use those platforms regularly, especially younger people who were born with an electronic device in hand. Courting younger Corvette owners is paramount to keeping the NCRS into the future. However, because it can be a cesspool of information and opinions, an account must be constantly monitored as well as updated on a regular basis to be a vibrant resource for the viewer and the organization. Trolls and unaccepted activity will slip by as a course of using the platforms but the key is to shut it down as quickly as possible. With the 3 or 4 admins NCRS has in place, I think they've done a good job.

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      • Harry S.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • July 31, 2002
        • 5258

        #33
        Re: NCRS Emergency Board of Directors Meeting October 29, 2022

        Originally posted by Owen Lowe (20119)
        To the Facebook/Instagram discussion, I'll add that for any organization to have a presence on them is important. Like it or not, many folks use those platforms regularly, especially younger people who were born with an electronic device in hand. Courting younger Corvette owners is paramount to keeping the NCRS into the future. However, because it can be a cesspool of information and opinions, an account must be constantly monitored as well as updated on a regular basis to be a vibrant resource for the viewer and the organization. Trolls and unaccepted activity will slip by as a course of using the platforms but the key is to shut it down as quickly as possible. With the 3 or 4 admins NCRS has in place, I think they've done a good job.
        Owen, good points. A difference is, on the NCRS website you must be an NCRS paid member to post as I recall. On Facebook, it's open to the public and anyone can post. So instead of 3 NCRS Moderators, would we need 50 to delete all the cesspool information that is posted. Just look what happened this week when Musk took over Twitter, all the hate came out and was posted.


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        • Michael J.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • January 27, 2009
          • 7073

          #34
          Re: NCRS Emergency Board of Directors Meeting October 29, 2022

          I would agree in principle, but when legitimate critiques of the society are offered, it is important that the moderators do not act as censors to only allow happy talk. I see that too often on moderated discussions. The question becomes, is Facebook an advertising media to promote the society to new members, or to have discussions by members of issues?
          Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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          • Keith M.
            Very Frequent User
            • January 17, 2021
            • 663

            #35
            Re: NCRS Emergency Board of Directors Meeting October 29, 2022

            Originally posted by Michael Johnson (49879)
            I would agree in principle, but when legitimate critiques of the society are offered, it is important that the moderators do not act as censors to only allow happy talk. I see that too often on moderated discussions. The question becomes, is Facebook an advertising media to promote the society to new members, or to have discussions by members of issues?
            Interesting. While I will go to my grave abstaining from anti-social media the likes of Fakebook, Twitter, et al I cannot deny it's "footprint" in our world. Several things I appreciate about this forum and site are 1) the transparency in that individuals are explicitly named by their actual name, 2) only folks who are serious and committed about the subject are here via paid NCRS membership, and 3) the overall respect that everyone brings forth...amongst others. That all being said...I guess my sincere question becomes ....other than NCRS presence...what does Fakebook do for NCRS that can't be done on this site/forum?? I am unaware of anything beyond creating awareness of NCRS ..but again...I am not a Fakebook user so I truly do not know and am curious what it does for NCRS that can't be done on this site.
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            late Oct 1969 L46 350/350, M21 4spd, 3.70 posi convertible --As with life, restoration is a journey, not a destination. Though restored cars provide both journeys AND destinations!

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            • Michael J.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • January 27, 2009
              • 7073

              #36
              Re: NCRS Emergency Board of Directors Meeting October 29, 2022

              Actually Harry, as Shannon pointed out in the video, there are 3 NCRS Facebook pages. One is a private group for members only, one is public, and one is for swap meet/parts items.
              Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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              • Terry M.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • September 30, 1980
                • 15573

                #37
                Re: NCRS Emergency Board of Directors Meeting October 29, 2022

                A minor point: I believe the page for parts/swap is for NCRS members only as well.
                Terry

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                • Michael J.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • January 27, 2009
                  • 7073

                  #38
                  Re: NCRS Emergency Board of Directors Meeting October 29, 2022

                  Correct, it too is a private page.
                  Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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                  • Brad Hillhouse (37766)

                    #39
                    Re: NCRS Emergency Board of Directors Meeting October 29, 2022

                    Mike & Terry are correct. My goal in setting up the page was to mirror what we have with the Driveline. NCRS Members doing parts buying/selling with other NCRS members. But to be able to do so in real time without having to wait several weeks to months for the next issue of the Driveline to be printed and mailed. When I need a part, I dont have the lead time available to wait for the next issue, I need it tomorrow.

                    FYI - I have turned down hundreds of requests from non members that want to join the page.

                    Brad

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                    • Keith M.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • January 17, 2021
                      • 663

                      #40
                      Re: NCRS Emergency Board of Directors Meeting October 29, 2022

                      Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)
                      A minor point: I believe the page for parts/swap is for NCRS members only as well.
                      I would love to have access to something like that...can we get that set up on this site??? I do not Facebook and never will...am sure I am not the only member in that camp. I go through every driveline and it is a chore to skip over the many irrelevant entries.
                      ***************
                      late Oct 1969 L46 350/350, M21 4spd, 3.70 posi convertible --As with life, restoration is a journey, not a destination. Though restored cars provide both journeys AND destinations!

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                      • Patrick H.
                        Beyond Control Poster
                        • December 1, 1989
                        • 11608

                        #41
                        Re: NCRS Emergency Board of Directors Meeting October 29, 2022

                        Originally posted by Keith Michaud (67636)
                        I would love to have access to something like that...can we get that set up on this site??? I do not Facebook and never will...am sure I am not the only member in that camp. I go through every driveline and it is a chore to skip over the many irrelevant entries.
                        Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                        71 "deer modified" coupe
                        72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                        2008 coupe
                        Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                        • Keith M.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • January 17, 2021
                          • 663

                          #42
                          Re: NCRS Emergency Board of Directors Meeting October 29, 2022

                          Omg..I feel so dense that I did know about that. Thank you a million..and a half!! Has that been around in this form for a long time?
                          ***************
                          late Oct 1969 L46 350/350, M21 4spd, 3.70 posi convertible --As with life, restoration is a journey, not a destination. Though restored cars provide both journeys AND destinations!

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                          • Vinnie P.
                            Editor NCRS Restorer Magazine
                            • May 31, 1990
                            • 1557

                            #43
                            Re: NCRS Emergency Board of Directors Meeting October 29, 2022

                            Originally posted by Keith Michaud (67636)
                            Omg..I feel so dense that I did know about that. Thank you a million..and a half!! Has that been around in this form for a long time?

                            at least 5 or 6 years now

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                            • Dan A.
                              Very Frequent User
                              • February 1, 2004
                              • 212

                              #44
                              Re: NCRS Emergency Board of Directors Meeting October 29, 2022

                              Yes, and it’s an excellent resource. The ability to easily search ads that have been added in the last 24 hours is a great tool.

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