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  • Gary B.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • February 1, 1997
    • 6979

    Compatibility of DOT 5 with modern brake piston seals




    Gary


    Regarding DOT 5 compatibility, there are some recent, informative postings on the Corvette Forum that Jim Lockwood made me aware of, including this one:


    https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ake-parts.html


  • Terry M.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • September 30, 1980
    • 15573

    #2
    Re: Compatibility of DOT 5 with modern brake piston seals

    The brake caliper rebuilding parts seem redily available, but the master cylinder kits (either manual or power) seem to be unobtainable at this time.
    Terry

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    • Gary B.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • February 1, 1997
      • 6979

      #3

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      • Terry M.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • September 30, 1980
        • 15573

        #4
        Re: Compatibility of DOT 5 with modern brake piston seals

        Thanks for the tip. I hadn't thought of that way.
        Terry

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        • Bob I.
          Very Frequent User
          • November 9, 2006
          • 265

          #5

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          • Gary B.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • February 1, 1997
            • 6979

            #6
            Re: Compatibility of DOT 5 with modern brake piston seals

            Bob,

            Do your existing caliper pistons take lip seals? Or O-rings?

            Gary

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            • Joe L.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • February 1, 1988
              • 43193

              #7
              Re: Compatibility of DOT 5 with modern brake piston seals

              Originally posted by Gary Beaupre (28818)


              Gary


              Regarding DOT 5 compatibility, there are some recent, informative postings on the Corvette Forum that Jim Lockwood made me aware of, including this one:


              https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...ake-parts.html

              Gary------

              Given that DOT 5 brake fluid is compatible with a fairly large variety of brake system elastomeric materials I've got to wonder what is the other seal material the brake parts rebuilders use? And, how much cost can be saved by using seals of such material?
              In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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              • Patrick H.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • December 1, 1989
                • 11608

                #8
                Re: Compatibility of DOT 5 with modern brake piston seals

                Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
                Gary------

                Given that DOT 5 brake fluid is compatible with a fairly large variety of brake system elastomeric materials I've got to wonder what is the other seal material the brake parts rebuilders use? And, how much cost can be saved by using seals of such material?
                Not only that, with as many as Lonestar uses and could likely sell, they could have them made with rubber that wouldn't be affected.
                I would think that warranty costs for cheap seals would be higher than any difference in price.
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                • Gary B.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • February 1, 1997
                  • 6979

                  #9
                  Re: Compatibility of DOT 5 with modern brake piston seals

                  Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
                  Gary------

                  Given that DOT 5 brake fluid is compatible with a fairly large variety of brake system elastomeric materials I've got to wonder what is the other seal material the brake parts rebuilders use? And, how much cost can be saved by using seals of such material?
                  Joe,

                  I initially thought it must be a cost issue. But as an example of costs, you can get a Raybestos lip seal kit for one rear caliper via Amazon Prime for $11.87. Muskegon Brake sells a rear lip seal kit for one caliper for $14.95. And the Muskegon kit might come with the DOT 5 warranty void disclaimer. So, I’m perplexed.

                  Gary

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                  • Bob I.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • November 9, 2006
                    • 265

                    #10
                    Re: Compatibility of DOT 5 with modern brake piston seals

                    Gary,
                    The calipers are lip seal, Lonestar rebuilt them approximately 10 years ago no leaks so far.
                    Bob

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                    • Gary B.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • February 1, 1997
                      • 6979

                      #11
                      Re: Compatibility of DOT 5 with modern brake piston seals

                      Originally posted by Bob Imhoff (46494)
                      Gary,
                      The calipers are lip seal, Lonestar rebuilt them approximately 10 years ago no leaks so far.
                      Bob

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                      • Richard G.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • July 31, 1984
                        • 1715

                        #12
                        Re: Compatibility of DOT 5 with modern brake piston seals

                        Without any thought or knowledge of compatibility or sealing materials I rebuilt the brake system on an C10 truck using DOT5 fluid. This was over two years ago. I did have my share of leaks. Especially when incorporating stainless lines in the build but none were at the rubber sealing surfaces.
                        I have put over 500 miles on the truck and have had zero issues with leaking or function of the brake system.
                        Guess if luck it what it takes I have had some.

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                        • Gary B.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • February 1, 1997
                          • 6979

                          #13

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