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  • Don M.
    Very Frequent User
    • June 30, 1998
    • 155

    Radials instead of Bias Ply on 67 BB Convt

    Guys, I am done competing with my 67 435 Convt, now I am going to drive it, no more serious showing. I want to switch from the Factory size Bias Ply Redlines, to a radial RedLine tires, maybe consider one size larger, but I don't want any chance of the tire hitting the body anywhere. Lets face it, there are some radials that just don't look right. What is everybody's choice for a nice radial, that isn't ridiculously expensive. Somebody told me that Coker makes, what he called a bias look radial??? Make sense, and body hear of such a thing? Sorry something that is good handling wise, and looks good.
  • Leif A.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • August 31, 1997
    • 3607

    #2
    Re: Radials instead of Bias Ply on 67 BB Convt

    Diambondback has several brand name tires that they can install a redline on for you. I run 215/70R15 on my '67. Second set from them...very satisfied. No rubbing issues whatsoever.

    Diamond Back Classic Tires is an online tire shop that creates custom classic car tires. Diamond Back creates white wall tires, redline tires, blueline tires, goldline tires and other vintage tires for pre-1976 vehicles including Corvettes, Mustangs, prewar cars, postwar cars, European cars and more.
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    Leif
    '67 Coupe L79, M21, C60, N14, N40, J50, A31, U69, A01, QB1
    Top Flight 2017 Lone Star Regional

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    • Keith B.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • September 15, 2014
      • 1575

      #3
      Re: Radials instead of Bias Ply on 67 BB Convt

      Coker has some shaky history on quality on their radial tires. DB has not and will not.

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      • Mel S.
        Very Frequent User
        • August 31, 1992
        • 263

        #4
        Re: Radials instead of Bias Ply on 67 BB Convt

        I have heard some "shaky" thing about Coker. That is why I bought Diamond Back for my 66. Very helpful personal.
        Mel

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        • Duke W.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • January 1, 1993
          • 15610

          #5
          Re: Radials instead of Bias Ply on 67 BB Convt

          If you want a serious performance tire the V-rated Avon CR6ZZ is the pick of the litter. Use the 205/70R-15 size. The 215/70 is only 0.1" taller, but the tread width is greater and might interfere with the fender lips.

          Duke

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          • Don M.
            Very Frequent User
            • June 30, 1998
            • 155

            #6
            Re: Radials instead of Bias Ply on 67 BB Convt

            Thank you Leif. I appreciate the photos, that's a big help, the info from Diamond Back is very helpful. I believe that will be my choice! I have non factory F41 replacement springs, I swear the car sits a little lower. That might make me want to do 205s instead of 215s. I will check the specs. Do you think its enough to make a difference? BTW, I even like the look of the tire. Thanks

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            • Don M.
              Very Frequent User
              • June 30, 1998
              • 155

              #7
              Re: Radials instead of Bias Ply on 67 BB Convt

              Hmm, thanks Keith

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              • Don M.
                Very Frequent User
                • June 30, 1998
                • 155

                #8
                Re: Radials instead of Bias Ply on 67 BB Convt

                Thanks Duke, I may do the 205, but I like Diamondbacks.

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                • Don M.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • June 30, 1998
                  • 155

                  #9
                  Re: Radials instead of Bias Ply on 67 BB Convt

                  Thanks Mel, I like the Diamondbacks, what size did you do??

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                  • Keith B.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • September 15, 2014
                    • 1575

                    #10
                    Re: Radials instead of Bias Ply on 67 BB Convt

                    stick with 205

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                    • Donald O.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • May 31, 1990
                      • 1580

                      #11
                      Re: Radials instead of Bias Ply on 67 BB Convt

                      I have Michelin WW radials mounted on my original ralleys and Diamondbacks redlines mounted on TorqThrust Ds. I had cokers on them TTs but they were THE WORST tires I’ve ever had for balance, roundness, or seeing the tread literally self destruct. Their service was non existent. The Diamondbacks were made by Toyo in 205/75 R15 (all three brands were/are the same size) two tires took 0.25 ounces to balance and two took ZERO to balance. They drive straight, true, quiet with way more grip than I will ever need cruising. I have no need for a speed rated tires, as my racing days are over. I went with the redlines as my 67 originally came with them. I had a set of bias redlines in 7.75-15 but their highway manners were not acceptable even after re-balancing thrice, two alignments an a full rebuild of the suspensions. With the acquisition of the Michelin radials it became a pleasure to drive on the highway.
                      For judging I would put red line bias tires back on but driving I’ll keep the radials on.

                      typo on the size, sorry about that
                      Don
                      The light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off.

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                      • Mel S.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • August 31, 1992
                        • 263

                        #12
                        Re: Radials instead of Bias Ply on 67 BB Convt

                        Don
                        My tire size is P205/75R15
                        Mel

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                        • Leif A.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • August 31, 1997
                          • 3607

                          #13
                          Re: Radials instead of Bias Ply on 67 BB Convt

                          The 205/75 tire is a bit taller and narrower than the 215/70...your choice but I like having a bit more "meat" on the ground.


                          Diameter inches (205/75)27.11" (688.5) (215/70) 26.85" (682) -0.26 (-6.5) -0.9%
                          Width inches (205/75)8.07" (215/70)8.46" 0.39 (10) 4.9%
                          Circum. inches (205/75)85.16" (2162.99) (215/70)84.35" (2142.57)-0.8 (-20.42) -0.9%
                          Sidewall Height inches (205/75)6.05" (153.75) (215/70)5.93" (150.5)-0.13 (-3.25) -2.1%
                          Revolutions per mile (205/75)744.04 (462.32) (215/70)751.13 (466.73)7.09 (4.41) 1%
                          Leif
                          '67 Coupe L79, M21, C60, N14, N40, J50, A31, U69, A01, QB1
                          Top Flight 2017 Lone Star Regional

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                          • Jimmy G.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • November 1, 1979
                            • 975

                            #14
                            Re: Radials instead of Bias Ply on 67 BB Convt

                            I have a set of Cokers on a 57 Chevy Convertible WORST tire I have ever purchased by a long shot
                            Founder - Carolinas Chapter NCRS

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                            • Duke W.
                              Beyond Control Poster
                              • January 1, 1993
                              • 15610

                              #15
                              Re: Radials instead of Bias Ply on 67 BB Convt

                              Originally posted by Leif Anderson (29632)
                              The 205/75 tire is a bit taller and narrower than the 215/70...your choice but I like having a bit more "meat" on the ground.


                              Diameter inches (205/75)27.11" (688.5) (215/70) 26.85" (682) -0.26 (-6.5) -0.9%
                              Width inches (205/75)8.07" (215/70)8.46" 0.39 (10) 4.9%
                              Circum. inches (205/75)85.16" (2162.99) (215/70)84.35" (2142.57)-0.8 (-20.42) -0.9%
                              Sidewall Height inches (205/75)6.05" (153.75) (215/70)5.93" (150.5)-0.13 (-3.25) -2.1%
                              Revolutions per mile (205/75)744.04 (462.32) (215/70)751.13 (466.73)7.09 (4.41) 1%
                              Revolutions per mile cannot be computed from dimensional data. This is because pneumatic tires deflect under load, so actual revs per mile that manufacturers measure on a tire dynamometer are usually about 3 percent less than the "rigid body" revs per mile that you compute from static inflated diameter.

                              For a given size most tires conform to Tire and Rim Association dimensions, which are in a narrow range and measured revs/mile follow suite. Most year AMA specs list revs per mile for OE tires and spec sheets for tires that you find on manufacturers' and retailers' Web sites usually include measured revs per mile.

                              Typical OE and replacement sizes are as follows.

                              760: 6.70-15, GR70-15, 225/70R-15
                              766: 205/75R-15
                              775: 7.75-15, F70-15, 215/70R-15

                              In most cases the speedometer gearing did not change with the slight differences in revs/mile during C1-C3 eras, but a few did.

                              Duke

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