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  • Keith M.
    Very Frequent User
    • January 17, 2021
    • 663

    Determining oil pan originality

    Curious if there is any way to determine oil pan originality? Particularly for a 69 L46.
    Thanks
    Keith
    ***************
    late Oct 1969 L46 350/350, M21 4spd, 3.70 posi convertible --As with life, restoration is a journey, not a destination. Though restored cars provide both journeys AND destinations!
  • Joe L.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • February 1, 1988
    • 43193

    #2
    Re: Determining oil pan originality

    Originally posted by Keith Michaud (67636)
    Curious if there is any way to determine oil pan originality? Particularly for a 69 L46.
    Thanks
    Keith
    Keith-------


    There's no way to determine if it's original to the car. However, it's relatively easy to determine if it's of the correct original configuration.
    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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    • Keith M.
      Very Frequent User
      • January 17, 2021
      • 663

      #3
      Re: Determining oil pan originality

      Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
      Keith-------


      There's no way to determine if it's original to the car. However, it's relatively easy to determine if it's of the correct original configuration.
      The latter is what I am after. I know what is on my car is a repro. I have opportunity to obtain one "believed to be an original" and correct for my car. How would one determine those things?
      ***************
      late Oct 1969 L46 350/350, M21 4spd, 3.70 posi convertible --As with life, restoration is a journey, not a destination. Though restored cars provide both journeys AND destinations!

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      • Joe L.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • February 1, 1988
        • 43193

        #4
        Re: Determining oil pan originality

        Originally posted by Keith Michaud (67636)
        The latter is what I am after. I know what is on my car is a repro. I have opportunity to obtain one "believed to be an original" and correct for my car. How would one determine those things?
        Keith-------

        The original looks just like the pan in these photos except that the front oil pan seal radius is 2-1/4" and not the 2-3/8" seen on this pan.


        DSCN4178.jpgDSCN4179.jpgDSCN4180.jpgDSCN4181.jpgDSCN4182.jpg
        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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        • Keith M.
          Very Frequent User
          • January 17, 2021
          • 663

          #5
          Re: Determining oil pan originality

          Thank you kindly. Very helpful. I presume 2 addl points...no part numbers or casting number on them...and secondly painted engine orange?
          ***************
          late Oct 1969 L46 350/350, M21 4spd, 3.70 posi convertible --As with life, restoration is a journey, not a destination. Though restored cars provide both journeys AND destinations!

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          • Joe L.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • February 1, 1988
            • 43193

            #6
            Re: Determining oil pan originality

            Originally posted by Keith Michaud (67636)
            Thank you kindly. Very helpful. I presume 2 addl points...no part numbers or casting number on them...and secondly painted engine orange?
            Keith-------


            Yes, no part number and no casting number on these pans (no casting number because no part of the pan is a casting). Pan was painted with the engine assembly.

            The pan pictured is an NOS GM pan of part number 360866
            In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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            • Patrick H.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • December 1, 1989
              • 11608

              #7
              Re: Determining oil pan originality

              The '92 has been relegated to being used as a parts prop now?

              I see you still have the Pontiac as well.
              Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
              71 "deer modified" coupe
              72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
              2008 coupe
              Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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              • Joe L.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • February 1, 1988
                • 43193

                #8
                In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                • Patrick H.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • December 1, 1989
                  • 11608

                  #9
                  Re: Determining oil pan originality

                  Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
                  Patrick——-/

                  By the way, I started a parts collection for the Grand Prix some time ago.
                  Did you label those boxes differently so that I can tell them apart?
                  Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                  71 "deer modified" coupe
                  72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                  2008 coupe
                  Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                  • Joe L.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • February 1, 1988
                    • 43193

                    #10
                    Re: Determining oil pan originality

                    Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
                    Did you label those boxes differently so that I can tell them apart?
                    Patrick-------


                    Oh, yes. Definitely.
                    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                    • Bill B.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • August 1, 2016
                      • 303

                      #11
                      Re: Determining oil pan originality

                      I needed a chuckle this morning!

                      You guys are great! Keep up the good work you do on this Discussion Board.
                      Bill Bertelli
                      Northeast and Carolinas Chapters Member
                      '70 Resto Mod LT-1 w/ partial '70 ZR-1 drivetrain

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                      • Keith M.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • January 17, 2021
                        • 663

                        #12
                        Re: Determining oil pan originality

                        Finally got around to taking some pics of the oil pan that was installed on my car around 1997 and still on it. Would love opinions as to the extent it may be correct for my car....69 L46 4spd. Thanks for any and all opinions and information.
                        Keith
                        Attached Files
                        ***************
                        late Oct 1969 L46 350/350, M21 4spd, 3.70 posi convertible --As with life, restoration is a journey, not a destination. Though restored cars provide both journeys AND destinations!

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                        • Joe L.
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          • February 1, 1988
                          • 43193

                          #13
                          Re: Determining oil pan originality

                          Originally posted by Keith Michaud (67636)
                          Finally got around to taking some pics of the oil pan that was installed on my car around 1997 and still on it. Would love opinions as to the extent it may be correct for my car....69 L46 4spd. Thanks for any and all opinions and information.
                          Keith
                          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                          • Jack H.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • April 1, 2000
                            • 477

                            #14
                            Re: Determining oil pan originality

                            I'm wondering if Keith's pan could still be a reproduction. I know there's a really nice "correct" reproduction out there...produced by Keen Parts maybe IIRC? I'm not sure what the differences are between those "correct" reproductions and a GM Original/GM NOS but I'm guessing its fairly subtle and may be the real question Keith is asking here.

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                            • Joe L.
                              Beyond Control Poster
                              • February 1, 1988
                              • 43193

                              #15
                              In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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