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  • David K.
    Very Frequent User
    • September 30, 1992
    • 281

    ProtectoPlate - Dealer inventory 67�

  • Ed D.
    Very Frequent User
    • December 1, 1990
    • 329

    #2
    Ed DiNapoli
    CNJ Chapter Past Chairman/Co Founder

    1972 Targa Blue Coupe, Original Owner,
    Duntov Award, Sam Foltz Award,
    Founders Award, NCRS Gallery VIII
    2011 Corvette Convertible
    NCRS Presidents Award 2014

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    • Owen L.
      Very Frequent User
      • September 30, 1991
      • 838

      #3
      1967 POP Info Protection Booklet.jpg

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      • Ed D.
        Very Frequent User
        • December 1, 1990
        • 329

        #4
        67 protectoplate.jpg2.jpgI found a copy of my original 67 protectoplate with my name on it.

        67 protectoplate.jpg
        Ed DiNapoli
        CNJ Chapter Past Chairman/Co Founder

        1972 Targa Blue Coupe, Original Owner,
        Duntov Award, Sam Foltz Award,
        Founders Award, NCRS Gallery VIII
        2011 Corvette Convertible
        NCRS Presidents Award 2014

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        • Mark F.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • July 31, 1998
          • 1468

          #5
          David,

          No. as others have said, the protect-o-plate is not created until the car was sold out of their inventory.

          My car is an example of how long that might take...

          Build and ship date was June 28th 1967.
          Delivery Date entered in Warranty book by Dealer was October 10, 1967.

          So, did the original person who ordered it back out of the deal ?
          Did Lyman Slack order it for inventory and it sat on the lot for 3-1/2 months before it was sold ?
          Were buyers waiting to see what the '68s would look like ?

          I don't know why that timeframe was there, but that's what the documents say and that same date is stamped into my Trim Plate.

          PS - They were supposed to stamp the delivery date (DD) next to the "Chevrolet DD" embossed letters on the VIN Plate, but that dealer did not do it that way. I'm guessing because there is more room on the Trim Plate and their stamp fonts were a bit larger than what would fit in that smaller space on the VIN Plate.

          - Delivery Date in Warranty Book.jpg
          thx,
          Mark

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          • David K.
            Very Frequent User
            • September 30, 1992
            • 281

            #6

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            • Joe L.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • February 1, 1988
              • 43193

              #7
              Originally posted by David Kalaydjian (21729)
              Thanks guys; the vehicle I’m inquiring about was delivered new to Rauscher Chevrolet in November 66….and stayed with them until January 68…when it was then sold to another used car dealer. I’m assuming it was kept as a demo car at Rauscher.
              I don’t have the POP…hence; I’m curious what would have been punched out on that POP, since it went from the new car dealer directly to a used car dealer……..
              David------


              Just to be clear in case there's any confusion, the metal embossed portion of the POP was done at St. Louis. The dymo tape portion was done by the dealer as was the information on the paper portion of the POP. Just how the dymo tape and paper portion of the POP would have been handled in what is apparently this unique case is hard to say. I will say this: it would be VERY unusual for a dealer to sell a "demonstrator" vehicle to a used car dealer.
              In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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              • Rich G.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • August 31, 2002
                • 1396

                #8
                1966 L79 Convertible. Milano Maroon
                1968 L71 Coupe. Rally Red (Sold 6/21)
                1963 Corvair Monza Convertible

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                • Mark F.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • July 31, 1998
                  • 1468

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
                  David------Just to be clear in case there's any confusion, the metal embossed portion of the POP was done at St. Louis. The dymo tape portion was done by the dealer as was the information on the paper portion of the POP. Just how the dymo tape and paper portion of the POP would have been handled in what is apparently this unique case is hard to say. I will say this: it would be VERY unusual for a dealer to sell a "demonstrator" vehicle to a used car dealer.
                  Hi Joe,

                  My bad.
                  You are so correct (as always) - I neglected to say what you say in your post re: the DYMO tapes that appear on the bottom part of the POP when delivered !
                  and those DYMO tapes had upside down "GM" watermarks in blue (presumably to verify the tapes were GM originals)

                  Protect-O-Plate GM watermark updside down.jpg
                  thx,
                  Mark

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                  • Joe L.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • February 1, 1988
                    • 43193

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Rich Giannotti (38594)
                    I had a 68 where everything was stamped in the metal including the original owners name. Every expert that looked at it including at high resolution photos said it was real. During this discussion other examples like mine showed up. The only explanation was that it could have been a replacement for a lost original that the dealer got the factory to make. If I remember correctly there was an article in the restorer about this which mentioned other GM brands having all metal POPs but not Corvette. FWIW.

                    Rich
                    Rich-------


                    That's exactly what caused the situation you describe. When a car changed hands during the warranty period (which, after all, is what the POP was all about in the first place), the new owner could apply to GM for a transfer of warranty. Then, a new POP would be produced ( I believe at usually the GM zone office). The new POP was completely a metal-embossed plate. I suppose the same thing would occur if the original owner applied for a replacement due to a loss of the original POP. Of course, if the vehicle was out of warranty, then this whole process was moot as nothing would be issued.
                    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                    • Ralph S.
                      Expired
                      • February 1, 1985
                      • 935

                      #11
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                      • Edward C.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • August 13, 2014
                        • 144

                        #12
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                        • David K.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • September 30, 1992
                          • 281

                          #13

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                          • Joe L.
                            Beyond Control Poster
                            • February 1, 1988
                            • 43193

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Edward Cervo (60326)
                            As Joe L stated above the all metal plate is usually a replacement P-o-p. It could be for transfer of ownership under warranty or to replace a lost plate. Here is a picture the GM form you would have had to fill out to get the replacement/2nd owner plate.

                            On the replacement plate, usually on the left side, there will be a number 1 or 2 (or even 3 but I never seen one) that indicates which number owner it is. I have seen original owner replacement plates and they will have a number 1. Subsequent owners will have 2,3 and so on.

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                            Edward-------


                            I expect the reason that a "3" (third owner) is rarely seen is that it's unlikely that a car would have more then 2 owners during the 36 month warranty period. And, even if it did would a third owner know about the possibility of warranty transfer or, if they did, care to go through the application process for the possibly few months of warranty remaining?
                            In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                            • Edward C.
                              Very Frequent User
                              • August 13, 2014
                              • 144

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
                              Edward-------


                              I expect the reason that a "3" (third owner) is rarely seen is that it's unlikely that a car would have more then 2 owners during the 36 month warranty period. And, even if it did would a third owner know about the possibility of warranty transfer or, if they did, care to go through the application process for the possibly few months of warranty remaining?
                              I agree completely.

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