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  • Valeria H.
    Very Frequent User
    • July 27, 2009
    • 463

    The purported fate of '63 S100001 & S100002 Corvettes

    Please reference this site http://www.pilotcarregistry.com/1963-corvette.html Interestingly, the author speculates S/N 001 and 002 did not leave the factory. Well we know at least one of the two did! Another theory stated they were both a result of internal orders by GM executives who just picked them up at the factory?? It would certainly explain why the vehicles did not have shipping records. Other possible fates discussed in the above mentioned (NCRS) record were they may have been sold on a bill of sale to independent racers, destroyed or worse, sold for scrap??

    I was approached recently by a neighbor who knows I have ties with the NCRS. He had some pertinent information about the two vehicles mentioned above. He relayed this story to me so that I may forward this on & it is not lost in time.

    Several years ago we had a neighbor, Theodore Eldon Melson (Ted Melson) who was also a car enthusiast. While talking about their past "vehicle loves" Ted shared this story. Before retiring he had been a Senior Vice President for Lear. He was in charge of manufacturing plants in the US & Mexico. Lear was a major supplier to the auto industry since 1917, and a major supplier to General Motors for many decades.

    He stated one day back in late 1962 he received a call from someone at GM (I believe it was Roger Smith) who told him he had ordered a new '63 Corvette for himself but no longer wanted it. He wanted to know if Ted wanted it. Ted said yes to the almost rhetorical question. Well, that 1963 Corvette was in fact S/N 001 - the first Corvette to roll off the assembly line for the C2 cars.

    At the time Ted was living in an apartment building in Detroit with an open parking lot, no garages. After only owning the car for about 6 months, Ted went to get in his car one morning to drive to work, and the car was gone. He reported it stolen to the police. Later that day the police found the remains of the car on FIRE in another parking lot. Weeks later the rest of the story came out. Apparently a Police Sergeant in Detroit or in a surrounding town had a son who led a ring of car thieves who would steal and strip Corvettes' specifically, and leave whatever parts were remaining burning in a pile. Worse yet, the Sergeant would use his "pull" to have the charges against his son dismissed.

    So, sad to say, 1963 Corvette S/N 001 perished forever. And sadly, so has Ted as he passed away a few years ago. Ted's wife, Jan is still alive and helped to verify the information contained within.

    It would be interesting to know if Police Records from 1963 still exist? It would certainly further authenticate the story.
    Comments and questions are welcome.
    Valeria Hutchinson
    Past Chairman of the Carolinas Chapter

    1960 Roman Red w/ White Coves -"Bella"
    2005 Millennium Yellow 6 speed 400 HP - "Trixie"
  • Duke W.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • January 1, 1993
    • 15610

    #2
    Re: The purported fate of '63 S100001 & S100002 Corvettes

    Every new GM model regular production is preceded by a "pilot line." This is set up to test the build prior to regular production to make sure everything fits and there are no assembly issues before regular production begins.

    In August 1968 I was the Pontiac pilot line production engineering liaison to the Chevrolet Van Nuys plant that built both Camaros and Firebirds. Firebird was mostly carryover from '68, and the only major change was a new bumper/grille assembly. IIRC we built five or six pilot jobs.

    Since the 1963 Corvette was an entirely new car with the exception of carryover engines and transmissions with minor changes, a total of 25 pilot line jobs were built. Pilot line jobs are often built with prototype parts that may not conform to production quality or configuration, and this can be especially noticeable with body trim parts.

    Some of these pilot cars were destined for internal testing, and several went to major car shows in both North America and Europe. Several of these pilot cars were equipped with the "two bar' "gear drive" KO wheels that are shown in the 1963 Corvette Shop Manual, and a few loose sets of these wheels made it into the public domain, too.

    I don't think the fate of all 25 pilot jobs is known, but some may have been worn out from testing and scrapped and some made it into the public domain, which would be very rare nowadays due to legal issues, particularly compliance with DOT and EPA requirements.

    Likely everyone here knows who Roger Smith is, but he didn't have a public persona until be became GM CEO in 1981 and became a well know figure after Michael Moore's 1989 hack job "documentary" "Roger and Me" made the theater circuit . Joining GM in 1947 he worked up the accounting ranks and would have probably been a mid-level manager in the early sixties.

    I don't recall ever hearing this story, nor do I recall anything similar being written by recognized, published Corvette historians like Karl Ludvisgen or Nolan Adams. As a result, I have to look at this story with a jaundiced eye and place it in the unverified and undocumented file drawer along with stories of steel body Corvettes and 409 Corvettes.

    Duke

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    • Valeria H.
      Very Frequent User
      • July 27, 2009
      • 463

      #3
      Re: The purported fate of '63 S100001 & S100002 Corvettes

      Duke,
      Thank you for your wealth of knowledge and your insight into the vast history of the Corvette. You are correct. Unfortunately it is too far down the line to be able to fully verify what has been said. My primary interest in sending this was as an interest piece. I knew
      there was no way for it to be verified. When we take ourselves to seriously we begin to loose perspective.
      Valeria Hutchinson
      Past Chairman of the Carolinas Chapter

      1960 Roman Red w/ White Coves -"Bella"
      2005 Millennium Yellow 6 speed 400 HP - "Trixie"

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      • Michael J.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • January 27, 2009
        • 7073

        #4
        Re: The purported fate of '63 S100001 & S100002 Corvettes

        Interesting, and you never know, didn't 1953 VIN #1 emerge from hiding in plain sight after 70 years?
        Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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        • Valeria H.
          Very Frequent User
          • July 27, 2009
          • 463

          #5
          Re: The purported fate of '63 S100001 & S100002 Corvettes

          Thank you for keeping an open mind. No one can have "Absolute Knowledge" regarding the history of Corvettes. I placed this on the forum to see if anyone else could corroborate what I've been told.
          Valeria Hutchinson
          Past Chairman of the Carolinas Chapter

          1960 Roman Red w/ White Coves -"Bella"
          2005 Millennium Yellow 6 speed 400 HP - "Trixie"

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          • Bob J.
            Very Frequent User
            • December 1, 1977
            • 713

            #6
            Re: The purported fate of '63 S100001 & S100002 Corvettes

            Valeria,
            were these cars (#1 & #2) described in more detail ? It be nice to know Coupe/Conv. and color or options.
            Thanks Bob Jorjorian

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            • Valeria H.
              Very Frequent User
              • July 27, 2009
              • 463

              #7
              Re: The purported fate of '63 S100001 & S100002 Corvettes

              Bob,
              I will try to reach out to Jan Melson to see if she has any of that information in her memory. Thank you for bringing this up to me!
              Valeria Hutchinson
              Past Chairman of the Carolinas Chapter

              1960 Roman Red w/ White Coves -"Bella"
              2005 Millennium Yellow 6 speed 400 HP - "Trixie"

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              • Mark F.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • July 31, 1998
                • 1468

                #8
                Re: The purported fate of '63 S100001 & S100002 Corvettes

                Page 108 of Larry Galloway's book "Corvette C2 1963 The Model Year that Launched the Corvette into History" lists data on the 1st 23 1963 Corvettes.

                He lists VIN 00001 as a Convertible
                and VIN 00002 as a Coupe

                Larry was there at St. Louis from August '62 thru some time in '67.
                Maybe he saw the 1st and 2nd ones roll off the line ?
                thx,
                Mark

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                • Valeria H.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • July 27, 2009
                  • 463

                  #9
                  Re: The purported fate of '63 S100001 & S100002 Corvettes

                  Does anyone know if Larry Galloway is still with us?
                  Valeria Hutchinson
                  Past Chairman of the Carolinas Chapter

                  1960 Roman Red w/ White Coves -"Bella"
                  2005 Millennium Yellow 6 speed 400 HP - "Trixie"

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                  • Rich G.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • August 31, 2002
                    • 1396

                    #10
                    Re: The purported fate of '63 S100001 & S100002 Corvettes

                    Duke

                    Number 13 exists in a collection I’m familiar with. It’s a FI coupe wearing two bar knock offs.

                    Rich
                    1966 L79 Convertible. Milano Maroon
                    1968 L71 Coupe. Rally Red (Sold 6/21)
                    1963 Corvair Monza Convertible

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                    • Mike L.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • January 1, 1986
                      • 312

                      #11
                      Re: The purported fate of '63 S100001 & S100002 Corvettes

                      Vin # 3 was a Conv. Red/Red, Fuel injected.

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                      • Steven B.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • June 30, 1982
                        • 3976

                        #12
                        Re: The purported fate of '63 S100001 & S100002 Corvettes

                        Originally posted by Mark Francis (30800)
                        Page 108 of Larry Galloway's book "Corvette C2 1963 The Model Year that Launched the Corvette into History" lists data on the 1st 23 1963 Corvettes.

                        He lists VIN 00001 as a Convertible
                        and VIN 00002 as a Coupe

                        Larry was there at St. Louis from August '62 thru some time in '67.
                        Maybe he saw the 1st and 2nd ones roll off the line ?
                        Could these be the two on the cover of R&T back then and other mags???

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                        • Mark F.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • July 31, 1998
                          • 1468

                          #13
                          Re: The purported fate of '63 S100001 & S100002 Corvettes

                          Originally posted by Valeria Hutchinson (50643)
                          Does anyone know if Larry Galloway is still with us?
                          He was as of 8/8/2023...
                          send him an email (not a PM as I don't know how often he comes on TDB)
                          thx,
                          Mark

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                          • Richard S.
                            Frequent User
                            • February 1, 1984
                            • 82

                            #14
                            Re: The purported fate of '63 S100001 & S100002 Corvettes

                            the last time I talked to Larry #248-672-4230
                            algint@gmail.com

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                            • Duke W.
                              Beyond Control Poster
                              • January 1, 1993
                              • 15610

                              #15
                              Re: The purported fate of '63 S100001 & S100002 Corvettes

                              Originally posted by Rich Giannotti (38594)
                              Duke

                              Number 13 exists in a collection I’m familiar with. It’s a FI coupe wearing two bar knock offs.

                              Rich
                              The link in post #1 has images of NCRS shipping report letters for six of the pilot jobs, sequence numbers 3, 11, 13, 15, 16, 20. Two are dated 2/11/18 and four dated 3/18/18, all signed by Roy Sinor.

                              Note that the report for 13 states "Retained by GM-Chevrolet". So maybe it was one of the show cars or used for testing or maybe it became a press car and then sold as a used car. Does the owner have any documented history on this car? The photos of #3 show that the emblem on the FI plenum cover is missing, which I believe is correct for the pilot cars with FI because not even pre-production versions of that emblem were available at the time.

                              I don't know much about the NCRS shipping program as I have never bought one. Does the car actually have to exist, and if so must the requester be the legal owner? I don't know.

                              Maybe Roy can chime in and explain, both my questions and the two same dates on the above six referenced NCRS shipping reports.

                              It would be interesting to know how many of the pilot cars still exist and whatever documented history exists for them after they rolled off the St. Louis 1963 Corvette pilot line.

                              Duke

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