Type 1 Jack Handle rivet

[Timothy B.]

In have what I believe is a original type 1 jack handle, no hole handle with the tool end that has a stamped A in the neck. The rivet is long gone and there is a nut and bolt holding the two pieces together.

My question is about the rivet and was wondering if anyone here knows a source for this rivet.

Thanks for any help. Tim

[Mark F.]

Re: Type 1 Jack Handle rivet

In have what I believe is a original type 1 jack handle, no hole handle with the tool end that has a stamped A in the neck. The rivet is long gone and there is a nut and bolt holding the two pieces together.

My question is about the rivet and was wondering if anyone here knows a source for this rivet.

Thanks for any help. Tim

Tim,

Try Harry Ledgerwood...he restores these jacks and may have what you need.

[Richard M.]

Re: Type 1 Jack Handle rivet

Tim, Is it a flat head rivet? I found some photos online. Like these?

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[Timothy B.]

Re: Type 1 Jack Handle rivet

Thanks Mark, I will try Harry if I can't find one on line.

Richard, that is exactly how the rivet should look, do you know of a source. I just noticed the tool end of that handle has a letter A stamped just like mine.

[Richard M.]

Re: Type 1 Jack Handle rivet

Tim, No, sorry I don't. I was curious so I searched a bit.

If I had dimensions I think I could make one on my lathe. I have some large size steel rod that might work.

[Timothy B.]

Re: Type 1 Jack Handle rivet

Richard,

Thank you for the offer, I am not sure of the rivet dimensions but that may be the best way to repair the handle. I put this handle aside because in older posts it mentioned a "o" cast into the tool end and mine has a "A" that's stamped into the tool end just like the handle in your picture but it came with my 63 years ago.

[Joseph S.]

Re: Type 1 Jack Handle rivet

Both the A stamp and the O cast are acceptable for 63.

[Richard M.]

Re: Type 1 Jack Handle rivet

Both the A stamp and the O cast are acceptable for 63.

Joe, thanks. Good to know.

Does that rivet look typical? It's a odd concentric shape. Or is it a big washer below the rivet?


I zoomed that bottom photo I posted. Tough to verify but it appears to be a "O", maybe a slash, or just a casting flaw, unsure.

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[Bob W.]

Re: Type 1 Jack Handle rivet

Tim Look at McMaster-Carr they have all types of rivets.

[Timothy B.]

Re: Type 1 Jack Handle rivet

Thanks, Bob. I will check them out, I also looked at the Hanson rivet web site. Hopefully I can come up with something.

[Bob W.]

Re: Type 1 Jack Handle rivet

Tim, Let us know how you make out.

[Richard M.]

Re: Type 1 Jack Handle rivet

If we could only get a Blueprint of the assembly.....

Gee, just thought of it. Is there one in Noland's book?

Just checked.... yes. Pages 105,106 of his Volume 2.

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So this shows the rivet is actually a 5/16" diameter steel pin. C-1008 or C-1010. I don't know what that means.
But it appears that this pin is long enough to then be swedged on both ends using a press. Do we concurr?
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Edit. I found a great article on 53-82 Jack's online, from Joe Tripoli. It's too big to upload here as it's bigger than our 2.86MB pdf limit.
Here....
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...tH7Cw_KA1mxWO9

[Mark F.]

Re: Type 1 Jack Handle rivet

If we could only get a Blueprint of the assembly.....Gee, just thought of it. Is there one in Noland's book? Just checked.... yes.

So this shows the rivet is actually a 5/16" diameter steel pin. C-1008 or C-1010. I don't know what that means.

But it appears that this pin is long enough to then be swedged on both ends using a press. Do we concurr?

Hi Rich,

Here's a link to AISI/SAE...refers to carbon steel content...but don't know specifically what the different numbers translate to
but maybe we're getting closer ?

https://www.ssroundbar.com/roundbar-rodbar/carbonsteel-roundbar-carbonsteel-rodbar/rodbar-type-c40-carbonsteel-roundbar/

[Rod K.]

Re: Type 1 Jack Handle rivet

C1008 or C1010 are just common, low carbon un-plated steels, essentially the type that Grade 2 common bolts are made from. (Hint: use the unthreaded shank portion of a 5/16 dia bolt, cut to length and peen in the assy against a flat anvil surface with a ball peen hammer to achieve the look of the original pin. Does the original have flat washers on the ends, is that what I'm seeing? If so, you'll have to select the correct size, turn the pin to create a shoulder to seat the washers against before peening. Can be done with a cutoff wheel in a drill press.

[Richard M.]

Re: Type 1 Jack Handle rivet

Mark/Rod, ok, thanks. So thinking about it more, the Pin....

How about a Clevis pin? Maybe that's what it implies in the drawing? Without the hole. The handle is 0.85" wide
Cut the pin to 1", peen the end with hammer, or use a air hammer with a rivet sledging end to emulate the typical appearance.

Like this one? Here
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