dealer installed options (out side mirror)

[Keith B.]

there is a discussion on the CF about dealer installed passenger side outside mirror. the go to answer is it was a dealer option. so looking at the dealer accessory price catalog books for 63-67 there is no listing for a mirror. Is there another source for dealer add on options? and another person stated that the parts houses list the mirror as GM part number 512016. I can't find that part number on gmpartswiki website. is that a valid part number and if so, what is it for?

[Mark F.]

Re: dealer installed options (out side mirror)

there is a discussion on the CF about dealer installed passenger side outside mirror. the go to answer is it was a dealer option. so looking at the dealer accessory price catalog books for 63-67 there is no listing for a mirror. Is there another source for dealer add on options? and another person stated that the parts houses list the mirror as GM part number 512016. I can't find that part number on gmpartswiki website. is that a valid part number and if so, what is it for?

Keith,

Over at Camaros.org, Post #24 talks about GM full-size 1967 Chevrolet Passenger Side Bow Tie Style RH Door Mirrors. He lists Part numbers: LH 3901861, RH 3901862. And your RH Accessory number 987025.

http://www.camaros.org/forum/index.php?topic=4959.15

[Duke W.]

Re: dealer installed options (out side mirror)

I can't answer your question, but "option" is not the proper nomenclature because it implies plant installation. (Recall what Russ Limbaugh often said: "words mean things".) For the various Chevrolet P & A catalogs the "A" stands for accessories, which includes items such as floor mats, fire extinguishers, tissue dispensers.... These could be ordered through GM dealers and be installed either by the dealer or owner or an independent mechanic selected by the owner.

The NCRS judging standard essentially states that the car is judged according to its as-built configuration from the plant with no more than normal dealer preparation for retail delivery exclusive of any dealer or owner inspired modifications. So even if a right hand mirror was a GM accessory it would likely warrant a deduction.( I don't necessarily agree with this with regards to GM accessories listed in the P & A catalog, but that's the rule as I understand it.)

I don't know if a RH mirror for C-2 Corvettes was an available accessory, but from the ones I've seen they appear to be a normal LH mirror installed on the RH side. This would be the case if the pinch bolt is on the outboard rather than inboard side of the installed RH mirror.

Duke

P. S. I looked at the CF post on this subject. Someone posted photos of relevant P & A catalog pages (I was impressed.), and there was no listing for a Corvette RH mirror.

In addition, post #5 has photos of a '63 silver blue Convertible with a RH mirror of the same design as the LH mirror and guess which side the pinch bolt head is on?

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...nd-mirror.html

Duke

[David B.]

Re: dealer installed options (out side mirror)

there is a discussion on the CF about dealer installed passenger side outside mirror. the go to answer is it was a dealer option. so looking at the dealer accessory price catalog books for 63-67 there is no listing for a mirror. Is there another source for dealer add on options? and another person stated that the parts houses list the mirror as GM part number 512016. I can't find that part number on gmpartswiki website. is that a valid part number and if so, what is it for?

GM # 512016 is a Pontiac Motor Division part number. Look in a Pontiac P&A and you will probably find it.

[Steven B.]

Re: dealer installed options (out side mirror)

1962 bought some fawn colored floor mats from local Chevy dealer. 1964 bought a fire extinguisher, floor mats and an accessory mirror from same accessory case in parts dept. I have a couple of accessory folders with lots of items.

[Jack M.]

Re: dealer installed options (out side mirror)

I had initially skipped over this thread (not every thread, interests every member)... going back, I see Mark was knocking on my door.

Dealer installed accessories could vary greatly... and if you focus on the 'custom' aspect (taken from the Custom Feature Accessories term), dealers have been making 'custom' treatments on cars, for decades. It really didn't matter if the item was on an approved Chevy list... they sold and installed whatever you paid for. Want special high performance tires on your Corvette... for an upgrade fee, many dealers supplied them at delivery. Desire the triple tail lights... itz not in the Chevy brochure, but it was indeed a 'custom' offering. Dealers wanted to sell you a car... so how often did they toss in floor mats, or a day/night mirror? It wasn't on your factory window sticker... but they may well have been in the car, on delivery day.

Looking at the Custom Feature Accessories albums, brochures, or price schedules... I doubt you'll find a unique RH outside mirror, specifically for a 1963-67 Corvette. Then again, I certainly believe that some dealerships installed them prior to delivery... so technically, was it 'Dealer Installed'?

Reviewing the small list of Corvette Dealer-Installed Custom Feature Accessories (from dealer Finger-Tip Facts albums), we have the following:

1963 Corvette:
1963 Dealer Installed Accessories.jpg

1964 Corvette:
1964 Dealer Installed Accessories.jpg

1965 Corvette:
1965 Dealer Installed Accessories.jpg

1965 REVISIONS (Full Size Chevrolet):
1965-R Dealer Installed Accessories.jpg

1966 Corvette:
1966 Dealer Installed Accessories.jpg

1967 Corvette:
1967 Dealer Installed Accessories.jpg
(LOL on what appears to be 327 & 427 engine 'accessories'... but if look again at the odd 'spacing', itz just for different radios.)

[Mark F.]

Re: dealer installed options (out side mirror)

Hey Jack,

I knew you'd bring some goodies to the party

The '67 sheet lists "Antenna--left rear fixed height"

That's the standard antenna as part of the U69 radio option.
So do you know why it is also listed as an accessory ?

[Gary B.]

[Mark F.]

Re: dealer installed options (out side mirror)

Gary,

Harkening back to the late '50s, I could see adding a fake one on the right...
maybe it would have worked for a CB ?

[Duke W.]

Re: dealer installed options (out side mirror)

Mark,

It’s for those who bought a ‘67 L88 and decided to add a radio later on.

Gary

I'm not sure if L-88 precluded ordering a radio, but if so, I doubt if many were ordered with a radio. In '67 you could still order the heater delete option, but that disappeared in '68 or '69 due to a new FMVSS that required a windshield defroster; '68 and '69 were also emission certified with an AIR pump and emission oriented spark advance map, at least to 49 states standards, unlike '67 when L-88 not only lacked exhaust emission controls... It didn't even have a PCV system... just a road draft tube and breathers.

Duke

[Terry M.]

Re: dealer installed options (out side mirror)

I'm not sure if L-88 precluded ordering a radio, but if so, I doubt if many were ordered with a radio. In '67 you could still order the heater delete option, but that disappeared in '68 or '69 due to a new FMVSS that required a windshield defroster; '68 and '69 were also emission certified with an AIR pump and emission oriented spark advance map, at least to 49 states standards, unlike '67 when L-88 not only lacked exhaust emission controls... It didn't even have a PCV system... just a road draft tube and breathers.

Duke

Duke
1968 and newer (at least through C3s) had to have a heater for the reasons you cite.

[Jack M.]

Re: dealer installed options (out side mirror)

Mark- Wasn't that other antenna used for an early version of OnStar?

All seriousness aside, I consulted the foremost authority on this subject.
Seemz they are also having difficulty coming up with a good reason...
After all, the radio kit INCLUDED the antenna (previous years too).
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I have no clue if any 'aftermarket' radios were common back in the 60's...
(perhaps mounted under the glove box... similar to an 8-Track Player)
Nor do I know if using TWO antennae would help with radio reception.
Then again, it was a kool west coast look... a simple visual 'balance'.
(that was not so uncommon, for vehicles back in the day)

[Mark F.]

Re: dealer installed options (out side mirror)

Mark- Wasn't that other antenna used for an early version of OnStar?

All seriousness aside, I consulted the foremost authority on this subject.
Seemz they are also having difficulty coming up with a good reason...
After all, the radio kit INCLUDED the antenna (previous years too).

I have no clue if any 'aftermarket' radios were common back in the 60's...
(perhaps mounted under the glove box... similar to an 8-Track Player)
Nor do I know if using TWO antennae would help with radio reception.
Then again, it was a kool west coast look... a simple visual 'balance'.
(that was not so uncommon, for vehicles back in the day)

Hey Jack,

Yeah, and it only had a market for 747 1967 Corvettes.
The other 96.7% (22,193 units) ordered U69 as an option.

Interesting...when I worked at Ford, I ordered the 1st brand new vehicle I had ever bought - a 1980 short bed pickup truck.
At that time, I knew the Safety Engineer (Les) at the plant where mine would be made.
He asked me what I was ordering and I told him.
When I got to the optional chrome rear step bumper, he said "Don't put that on your order form. It'll come with one and you won't have to pay for it?"
I said, "what ?"
Apparently the Ford bean counters figured out when an option is ordered at an extremely high rate, it was cheaper to put them on all vehicles rather than stocking non-optional parts cluttering up the assembly plant aisles, etc.
Granted, a bumper is a much larger part than a radio

[Keith B.]

Re: dealer installed options (out side mirror)

years ago I found a NOS 65-66 antenna "kit" beside the power antenna it came with everything needed to install the antenna including full size drawing on where to drill the hole for the antenna.

[Ken R.]

Re: dealer installed options (out side mirror)

When I ordered my 65 at the dealer, I wanted the RH outside mirror. Dealer wrote in pen on the order "outside mirror $7.50". But it was never installed when I got the car. I don't see any where that I paid for one either. Guess dealer wanted to please me when I ordered it, probably knowing it wouldn't be put on.