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  • Mark F.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • July 31, 1998
    • 1468

    #16
    Re: Trim Tag Advice

    Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
    Mark------The trim plate holes were supposed to be drilled at St. Louis "using the pillar post as a template".
    Originally posted by Owen Lowe (20119)
    The '72 AIM (UPC 14, sheet F1) says to drill and use the plate as a template; it doesn't indicate any measurements for placement:
    Hence why it could be anywhere in that space...(even bent over)...
    it's "the dog on the day" kinda thingy"

    Still surprising to me that holes, dimples, (or pre-marking of some kind as Jack says) weren't already there w/ the panel; but somebody had their reasons as documented in the AIM.

    FYI - here's what a C2 AIM shows (holes were already there in the bird cage brace at the attachment station):
    VIN TRIM Plate C2 predrilled holes in birdcage_001.jpg
    thx,
    Mark

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    • Owen L.
      Very Frequent User
      • September 30, 1991
      • 838

      #17
      Re: Trim Tag Advice

      Originally posted by Deane McGoldrick (46666)
      Looking for a little help on this trim tag. Looks ok to me. But that doesn't mean much.......
      Let me know.
      Thanks.
      Anyone have any other tag from F29? It would take some extra effort to "use the plate as a template" to drill holes in that location. The tag wouldn't even sit flat on the panel to drill them.

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      • Jack M.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • March 1, 1991
        • 1138

        #18
        Re: Trim Tag Advice

        Good idea from Owen to check the AIM's... and since this particular BaT Corvette is a 1969, letz look back.
        This info come from the 1968 AIM... note the dimensions being called out:
        1968 AIM (UPC 0 - Sheet B2).jpg


        In 1969, the page changed to the following:
        1969 AIM (UPC 0 - Sheet B2)-01.jpg
        1969 AIM (UPC 0 - Sheet B2)-02.jpg


        And the REVISIONS (enlarged), indicate some of these changes were very late:
        1969 AIM (UPC 0 - Sheet B2)-03.jpg

        If someone had an earlier 1969 AIM page, perhaps it might add some clarity.

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        • Edward J.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • September 15, 2008
          • 6940

          #19
          Re: Trim Tag Advice

          Deane, The C3 registry has a data base of trim tags, as it looks they were installed with some variation, some worst than others some with one bent corner and some with both. Of coarse there are alot I would not touch with a 10 foot poll.
          New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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          • Jack M.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • March 1, 1991
            • 1138

            #20
            Re: Trim Tag Advice

            Originally posted by Edward Johnson (49497)
            Deane, The C3 registry has a data base of trim tags, as it looks they were installed with some variation, some worst than others some with one bent corner and some with both. Of coarse there are alot I would not touch with a 10 foot poll.
            Good thought Ed... and reviewing the Trim Tags just BEFORE and AFTER the VIN in question, they appear SIMILAR to the image Deane posted.

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            • Mark F.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • July 31, 1998
              • 1468

              #21
              Re: Trim Tag Advice

              That's 266,898 hand-placed (random) and hand-drilled holes and rivets from 1968 thru 1972 !
              thx,
              Mark

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              • Jon H.
                Very Frequent User
                • January 1, 1999
                • 147

                #22
                Re: Trim Tag Advice

                Originally posted by Deane McGoldrick (46666)
                Looking for a little help on this trim tag. Looks ok to me. But that doesn't mean much.......
                Let me know.
                Thanks.
                Original factory production trim tag. The tag is from the 69 on BAT for sale currently. Original an L46 car that has been built into an L71 clone.

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                • Joe L.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • February 1, 1988
                  • 43193

                  #23
                  Re: Trim Tag Advice

                  Originally posted by Owen Lowe (20119)
                  Anyone have any other tag from F29? It would take some extra effort to "use the plate as a template" to drill holes in that location. The tag wouldn't even sit flat on the panel to drill them.
                  Owen------

                  That's a good point. Note that the rivet holes in the plate are not centered on the "short" dimension of the plate. So, if the plate were used as a template for drilling the holes but the plate was held upside down during the drilling process, then the finished installation would appear just like the one initially pictured here
                  In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                  • Kenneth B.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • August 31, 1984
                    • 2084

                    #24
                    Re: Trim Tag Advice

                    Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
                    Owen------

                    That's a good point. Note that the rivet holes in the plate are not centered on the "short" dimension of the plate. So, if the plate were used as a template for drilling the holes but the plate was held upside down during the drilling process, then the finished installation would appear just like the one initially pictured here
                    JOE My thoughts exactly. They were built on a assembly line with a job #. Not a hand built custom coach auto.
                    65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
                    What A MAN WON'T SPEND TO GIVE HIS ASS A RIDE

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                    • Mike D.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • July 31, 1996
                      • 303

                      #25
                      Re: Trim Tag Advice

                      I was wondering if the body build matched the VIN production date.
                      Mike Doty
                      Intermountain Chapter Judging Chairman
                      Region VIII Director

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                      • Owen L.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • September 30, 1991
                        • 838

                        #26
                        Re: Trim Tag Advice

                        Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
                        Note that the rivet holes in the plate are not centered on the "short" dimension of the plate. So, if the plate were used as a template for drilling the holes but the plate was held upside down during the drilling process, then the finished installation would appear just like the one initially pictured here
                        BAT-Blue-Corvette-122-50930.png

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                        • Jon H.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • January 1, 1999
                          • 147

                          #27
                          Re: Trim Tag Advice

                          Here is another trim tag with an F29 build date.
                          F29 trim tag.jpg

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                          • Mark F.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • July 31, 1998
                            • 1468

                            #28
                            Re: Trim Tag Advice

                            Did '68s to '72s not have body sequence numbers (BSNs) like C2s did ?
                            or, if they did were they located somewhere other than the Trim Plate ?
                            thx,
                            Mark

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                            • Owen L.
                              Very Frequent User
                              • September 30, 1991
                              • 838

                              #29
                              Re: Trim Tag Advice

                              Originally posted by Mark Francis (30800)
                              Did '68s to '72s not have body sequence numbers (BSNs) like C2s did ?
                              or, if they did were they located somewhere other than the Trim Plate ?
                              Not my '72 anyway. It's not on the trim tag or door label. Guess it was decided that it wasn't important to track.

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                              • Tim G.
                                Extremely Frequent Poster
                                • March 1, 1990
                                • 1358

                                #30
                                Re: Trim Tag Advice

                                I think you guys are on to something with two F29 trim tags mounted too high. They more or less validate each other.

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