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  • Charles P.
    Frequent User
    • November 1, 2021
    • 37

    Education on a 67 Trim Tag

    Hi, there is a 67 car on BaT silver with a bright blue interior which I thought was not listed on the 67 color options for silver exterior. If it was a special order car, would it be noted on the trim tag? Here is an image:
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  • Mark F.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • July 31, 1998
    • 1468

    #2
    Re: Education on a 67 Trim Tag

    If it was a COPO (special corporate office order) I don't believe the Trim Plate would have anything on it indicating that.
    if you have the tank sticker, that would probably say if it was COPO - even if not, it would indicate the color combination that was in the plant computer system for production

    other possibilities are:
    • it's a typo
    • it's been messed with
    thx,
    Mark

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    • Joseph S.
      National Judging Chairman
      • March 1, 1985
      • 831

      #3
      Re: Education on a 67 Trim Tag

      The colors listed as available were suggested combinations. We know there are a bunch of Silver/Red 67 cars that were built. I would guess there are a few Silver/Bright blue cars also. It's a cool combination that was probably requested many times. It was easy for dealers to get non recommended color combos passed if they didn't look offensive.

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      • Charles P.
        Frequent User
        • November 1, 2021
        • 37

        #4
        Re: Education on a 67 Trim Tag

        Thanks for the comments! Just trying to make sure I didn't miss understand the process back then....

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        • Bill M.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • July 31, 1989
          • 1317

          #5
          Re: Education on a 67 Trim Tag

          Dealers were also afraid of odd color combinations because they would be stuck with the car if the person who ordered changed their mind. I once ordered a K5 Blazer with no AC. I had to put 1/2 down. Dealer said if I changed my mind they would not be able to give the truck away.

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          • Mark F.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • July 31, 1998
            • 1468

            #6
            Re: Education on a 67 Trim Tag

            Originally posted by Mark Francis (30800)
            ...if you have the tank sticker, that would probably say if it was COPO - even if not, it would indicate the color combination that was in the plant computer system for production...
            Too bad only a small chunk of the tank sticker survived...
            With Al's CCAS certificates - it's real...

            I'll be interested what it goes for...

            Bid for the chance to own a 38-Years-Owned 1967 Chevrolet Corvette Coupe L71 427/435 4-Speed at auction with Bring a Trailer, the home of the best vintage and classic cars online. Lot #169,504.
            thx,
            Mark

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            • Kenneth B.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • August 31, 1984
              • 2084

              #7
              Re: Education on a 67 Trim Tag

              My understanding the non recommended color had to be approved by the zone manager not COPO.
              65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
              What A MAN WON'T SPEND TO GIVE HIS ASS A RIDE

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              • Mike T.
                Very Frequent User
                • January 1, 1992
                • 568

                #8
                Re: Education on a 67 Trim Tag

                Just scanned quickly through the C2Registry.org site and while their 67 listings only account for less than 6% of the total 1967 Corvettes, and all the input is dependent on the owner to supply, there was '1' Silver on Bright Blue Roadster listed and '5' Silver on Red Corvettes listed. And I thought Silver was only available with Black/Silver/Teal interiors.
                Mike T. - Prescott AZ.

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                • Roy S.
                  Past National Judging Chairman
                  • July 31, 1979
                  • 1022

                  #9
                  Re: Education on a 67 Trim Tag

                  I believe it was simply considered a color override not a COPO. Have seen many 67’s over the years Maroon/Red, Yellow/Saddle, Black/dk green and of course silver/bright blue and silver/red, to mention just a few.

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                  • Mark F.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • July 31, 1998
                    • 1468

                    #10
                    Re: Education on a 67 Trim Tag

                    Originally posted by Roy Sinor (2608)
                    I believe it was simply considered a color override not a COPO. Have seen many 67’s over the years Maroon/Red, Yellow/Saddle, Black/dk green and of course silver/bright blue and silver/red, to mention just a few.
                    Do you know if there was a charge the customer had to pay for doing a color combo override ?

                    Ford would allow non-standard (custom ?) exterior color changes and they called them DSOs (Dealer Special Orders).
                    The customer's non-standard color was mixed and placed into a pressurized tank mounted on a trolley (small trailer) that was hooked to the back end of the body conveyor truck.

                    As the body rolled toward the painters, they'd clean their guns of the last color painted; hook their guns to the quick disconnects on the pressurized DSO tank; paint their section of the vehicle; then move on to the next job coming down the line.

                    It's not the same thing as substituting different interior colors with standard exterior colors, but as I recall, there was a fairly hefty charge to do these DSOs.
                    thx,
                    Mark

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                    • Roy S.
                      Past National Judging Chairman
                      • July 31, 1979
                      • 1022

                      #11
                      Re: Education on a 67 Trim Tag

                      Mark, I do not know what he answer to that question. Today there is if you request a non standard color combination.

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                      • Terry M.
                        Beyond Control Poster
                        • September 30, 1980
                        • 15573

                        #12
                        Re: Education on a 67 Trim Tag

                        Originally posted by Mark Francis (30800)
                        Do you know if there was a charge the customer had to pay for doing a color combo override ?

                        Ford would allow non-standard (custom ?) exterior color changes and they called them DSOs (Dealer Special Orders).
                        The customer's non-standard color was mixed and placed into a pressurized tank mounted on a trolley (small trailer) that was hooked to the back end of the body conveyor truck.

                        As the body rolled toward the painters, they'd clean their guns of the last color painted; hook their guns to the quick disconnects on the pressurized DSO tank; paint their section of the vehicle; then move on to the next job coming down the line.

                        It's not the same thing as substituting different interior colors with standard exterior colors, but as I recall, there was a fairly hefty charge to do these DSOs.

                        I can't speak to C2s, but for early C3s there was no charge for a non-standard color combination, however, in one 1969 case I am aware of the customer's name was on the tank sheet and prior to the build the zone office contacted the dealer. to verify the non-standard color combination. The salesman then contacted the customer to validate the desired combination. In this case the customer was an employee of the dealership, so communication was not too difficult.

                        Note this was simply a non-standard color COMBINATION. NOT a non-standard color.

                        I am aware of cars factory painted an unavailable color in 1970 and 1971 (black) and in the case of the 1970 there was an up-charge for this color. I don't recall exactly the charge or the code for it, but it was nominal ($20 to the best of my recollection, but maybe $50). In this case the story is the dealer was required to order a specific number of these unavailable colored cars (the report was the number 5) in order to get them. In this case the trim tag read for the paint: SPEC or SPECIAL. I don't recall if there was a COPO number on any of the documentation, but the car got the Bow Tie Preservation Award and I believe there was significant publicity about it at the time.

                        As I said at the beginning none of this applies to C2s, but there were Shriner cars painted un-available colors, but that is not the subject matter which is non-standard color combinations. What Roy S said also applies to early C3s. There have been quite a number of non-standard color combination early C3s brought for judging and so long as the trim tag passes the Team Leaders validation no other documentation is needed for judging. The color combination may be a subject of discussion, and sometimes wonderment, over beverages; but that is the extent of it for us.
                        Terry

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                        • Tim G.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • March 1, 1990
                          • 1358

                          #13
                          Re: Education on a 67 Trim Tag

                          Here's a 1973 window sticker with a $15.00 charge for black paint. This dealer had to order black for a batch of 50 cars if I remember correctly.
                          I removed the VIN.
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                          • Mark F.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • July 31, 1998
                            • 1468

                            #14
                            Re: Education on a 67 Trim Tag

                            It's astounding to me how cheap some of the upcharges were for non-standard colors.

                            Perhaps they (GM; or the Assembly Plant involved) ate some of the costs to satisfy customer desires - and also marketed it as something special to attract more customers ?

                            I do understand if GM required a run of XX to do them, that gets the per unit costs down for the required switch-overs...
                            but then you have to have XX customers who all wanted that non-standard color.

                            I guess it all boils down to anything and everything is possible if the desire and money are there to make it happen.
                            thx,
                            Mark

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                            • Kenneth B.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • August 31, 1984
                              • 2084

                              #15
                              Re: Education on a 67 Trim Tag

                              A friend in 1975 ordered a lime green with silver interior convertible & didnt pay extra but had to put half down. Wanted a Corvette on one else had.
                              65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
                              What A MAN WON'T SPEND TO GIVE HIS ASS A RIDE

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