Stamped dated carburetor

[Bill M.]

What are thoughts on new 3367 Holley carburetors that have your date stamped after the fact ? The price of original dated rebuilds is now in the 2000$ range
Thanks Bill

[Harry S.]

What are thoughts on new 3367 Holley carburetors that have your date stamped after the fact ? The price of original dated rebuilds is now in the 2000$ range
Thanks Bill

Bill, is this a quality question or a Judging question?

[Bill M.]

Harry I am going to say both.

[Harry S.]

Harry I am going to say both.

For Judging you will get a 20% deduct of the total points on the incorrect date. That's 20% of 40 on originality, so 8 points.
I'll let others comment on the quality as I have AFB's on my C2's.

[David H.]

What are thoughts on new 3367 Holley carburetors that have your date stamped after the fact ? The price of original dated rebuilds is now in the 2000$ range
Thanks Bill

Bill

If your question relates to judging, then, for Mid-Years, 40 Originality Points, and 20 Condition points for carburetor. (Out of 4500 total points in Flight Judging)

A new reproduction carburetor might, might, have some differences from original, that might result in a Configuration deduction. Any configuration differences might also generate a Date deduction. (Hopefully, a new carb would mimic appearance of an original finish)

Configuration and Date deductions (at 20 % each) would result in 16 points lost. As a new carburetor, expect no Condition deduction.

Depending on rebuild level, a restored original carburetor, might, might, have a Finish issue. (20% deduction) Original components may also display wear/damage that could result in Condition deductions.

An original unrestored carburetor would receive no Originality deductions. However, aging/damage to that carburetor likely would generate Condition deductions.

So, pick your poison, as to cost vs points.

Also consider potential for problems during Operations check.

Dave

[Bill M.]

Thanks all the poison choice is difficult

[Harry S.]

Thanks all the poison choice is difficult

Bill, if you car is a good car, don't sweat the 8 points. I'll take the 8 points over $2000.00 any day. It's the $$$ per point tradeoff.

[John R.]

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Bill I think you are talking about a carb like this one.The later carbs like this are still available with the only difference is that the bowls are a different color then the bodies.Bodies are more silver then gold.Later models.These can get stamped with any date code.You are getting a brand new carb with the correct date that is applied to the carb.Not sure if there would be any deduction on points but that is not my call.

[Bob W.]

Who, stamps carbs?


Bob

[Bill M.]

Bob
Hermans corvette muscle cranes. San Diego Ca. He is on e bay

[Gary B.]

Bob
Hermans corvette muscle cranes. San Diego Ca. He is on e bay

Cranes charges +$90 if you buy a new carb from him..

Gary

[Bob W.]

Bill , Gary Thank for your reply. I didn't know anyone did this. Will he stamp your carb or only one you buy from him.


Thanks Bob

[Keith M.]

Depends. How much of an originality purist are you? For me it is sacrilege. For others points and prizes matter more than true originality so have at it. Just my view which many do not seem to share anymore. It is a personal choice.

[David H.]

Depends. How much of an originality purist are you? For me it is sacrilege. For others points and prizes matter more than true originality so have at it. Just my view which many do not seem to share anymore. It is a personal choice.

Keith

Originality purists make up a small subset of NCRS members. It's in our name: National Corvette Restorers Society.

Most all our members work at restoring cars. But, we also have our Bowtie and Crossed Flags Judging.

And judging Originality on these Bowtie/CF cars we give credit for a percentage of originality.

It's only Original once.

Restored cars are not original, they're restored. That's why Flight Judging is based on ... appearance of originality.

Given we're judging appearance of originality, how close that appearance is (for many of us) becomes a "dollars and sense" question. How deep your pockets are, effects how close that appearance can get.

That is why our judging rules evolve to take into consideration material availability etc on restoring theses old cars. Awareness of our judging process and rules helps with those restoration decisions

In OP's case, points lost for $$$ cost is his decision.

Dave

[Keith M.]

Keith

Originality purists make up a small subset of NCRS members. It's in our name: National Corvette Restorers Society.

Most all our members work at restoring cars. But, we also have our Bowtie and Crossed Flags Judging.

And judging Originality on these Bowtie/CF cars we give credit for a percentage of originality.

It's only Original once.

Restored cars are not original, they're restored. That's why Flight Judging is based on ... appearance of originality.

Given we're judging appearance of originality, how close that appearance is (for many of us) becomes a "dollars and sense" question. How deep your pockets are, effects how close that appearance can get.

That is why our judging rules evolve to take into consideration material availability etc on restoring theses old cars. Awareness of our judging process and rules helps with those restoration decisions

In OP's case, points lost for $$$ cost is his decision.

Dave

Hi Dave,
OP asked for thoughts and so i shared mine. Goal of restoration is to bring something back to original state to the extent possible recognizing many choices and compromises must be made along the way. If a car is not a 100% survivor nothing can bring it back to what it had off the assembly line ...as you say only original once. An overstamped part is "less original" than one with original stampings...but more original than an incorrect part.
Keith