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  • Roy B.
    Expired
    • February 1, 1975
    • 7044

    #16
    Re: 57-65 FI question

    {Possibly the copper plating is more corrosion resistant}

    That's your answer

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    • Roy B.
      Expired
      • February 1, 1975
      • 7044

      #17
      Re: 57-65 FI question

      {Possibly the copper plating is more corrosion resistant}

      That's your answer

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      • Joe L.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • February 1, 1988
        • 43193

        #18
        Re: 57-65 FI question

        roy------

        I don't think so. First of all, I don't think that copper is more corrosion resistant than TBW. Copper does corrode (ever see "green" copper; that's the corrosion product of copper).

        Second, why would more corrosion protection be required on the oil lines than on brake and fuel lines? I would think it would be the opposite.
        In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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        • Joe L.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • February 1, 1988
          • 43193

          #19
          Re: 57-65 FI question

          roy------

          I don't think so. First of all, I don't think that copper is more corrosion resistant than TBW. Copper does corrode (ever see "green" copper; that's the corrosion product of copper).

          Second, why would more corrosion protection be required on the oil lines than on brake and fuel lines? I would think it would be the opposite.
          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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          • Joe M.
            Very Frequent User
            • February 1, 2005
            • 589

            #20
            Re: 57-65 FI question

            Could it be that some other application used the copper coated line of the needed length. I'm talking maybe a home AC unit or 2 cycle engine, military surplus or some application where sparks were not desirable. So maybe it was a low cost find that could be applied to the low production FI unit???
            Out of straws.

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            • Joe M.
              Very Frequent User
              • February 1, 2005
              • 589

              #21
              Re: 57-65 FI question

              Could it be that some other application used the copper coated line of the needed length. I'm talking maybe a home AC unit or 2 cycle engine, military surplus or some application where sparks were not desirable. So maybe it was a low cost find that could be applied to the low production FI unit???
              Out of straws.

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              • Roy B.
                Expired
                • February 1, 1975
                • 7044

                #22
                Re: 57-65 FI question JOE

                I ment to say copper makes LESS , yes it can turn green , but also helps the steel last longer. I like the look of a copper roof on a house.

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                • Roy B.
                  Expired
                  • February 1, 1975
                  • 7044

                  #23
                  Re: 57-65 FI question JOE

                  I ment to say copper makes LESS , yes it can turn green , but also helps the steel last longer. I like the look of a copper roof on a house.

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                  • John D.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • December 1, 1979
                    • 5507

                    #24
                    Re: 57-65 FI question

                    Dr. Mike, I have never seen a 57-58 distr oil line kit that has been anything but a bare steel. Not really bare but like a typical old brake line.
                    Now the print for the 889, 905,906 distributor does NOT show this line as being another but bare.

                    I have seen some 59 to 65 DOL's that were in fact copper plated steel. But I have also seen a lot of originals that were in fact bare steel.Same old story.Several suppliers. But for us to say that they were ALL copper plated steel lines would not be correct. But for us to say that there MAY be copper plated distr oil lines would be nice.
                    Typical in that era was bare steel.Not so typical was copper plated steel. Or vice versa.
                    Now to proof this statement even further I have my friend checking on the original print of the mid 58 to 65 line to see what material is specified. So hold the phone until I get both prints in hand (illegally of course) and I will get back to you and the gang.
                    Here is one for you Dr. Mike. My 63 FI car lost a point on the copper plated steel oil gauge line cause the judge at a regional (not saying where) said it was supposed to be copper. Go figure. All the kings horses and gentle complaining didn't do squat.It was ding a ding. Oh well it doesn't really matter anyhow in the scheme of things. The big thing is that my "original" distr. oil line kit with the "original" plain steel oil line on it is leaking. I mean it's leaking at the fittings. So it's gonna be history and a nice incorrect pretty repro POC is going on just so the thing quits leaking Rotella all over the place. JD.

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                    • John D.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • December 1, 1979
                      • 5507

                      #25
                      Re: 57-65 FI question

                      Dr. Mike, I have never seen a 57-58 distr oil line kit that has been anything but a bare steel. Not really bare but like a typical old brake line.
                      Now the print for the 889, 905,906 distributor does NOT show this line as being another but bare.

                      I have seen some 59 to 65 DOL's that were in fact copper plated steel. But I have also seen a lot of originals that were in fact bare steel.Same old story.Several suppliers. But for us to say that they were ALL copper plated steel lines would not be correct. But for us to say that there MAY be copper plated distr oil lines would be nice.
                      Typical in that era was bare steel.Not so typical was copper plated steel. Or vice versa.
                      Now to proof this statement even further I have my friend checking on the original print of the mid 58 to 65 line to see what material is specified. So hold the phone until I get both prints in hand (illegally of course) and I will get back to you and the gang.
                      Here is one for you Dr. Mike. My 63 FI car lost a point on the copper plated steel oil gauge line cause the judge at a regional (not saying where) said it was supposed to be copper. Go figure. All the kings horses and gentle complaining didn't do squat.It was ding a ding. Oh well it doesn't really matter anyhow in the scheme of things. The big thing is that my "original" distr. oil line kit with the "original" plain steel oil line on it is leaking. I mean it's leaking at the fittings. So it's gonna be history and a nice incorrect pretty repro POC is going on just so the thing quits leaking Rotella all over the place. JD.

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                      • William C.
                        NCRS Past President
                        • May 31, 1975
                        • 6037

                        #26
                        Re: 57-65 FI question-COLD in the barn

                        One example copper plated steel, one example Tin coated steel, all I could find before freezing!
                        Bill Clupper #618

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                        • William C.
                          NCRS Past President
                          • May 31, 1975
                          • 6037

                          #27
                          Re: 57-65 FI question-COLD in the barn

                          One example copper plated steel, one example Tin coated steel, all I could find before freezing!
                          Bill Clupper #618

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                          • Mike M.
                            NCRS Past President
                            • May 31, 1974
                            • 8365

                            #28
                            Re: 57-65 FI question

                            john boy: i'd definitly replace the oil press gauge line with a copper coated steel line as i'm convinced the midyears had copper-coated oilpress lines. now getting back to the c-1 fi oil line to the distributor: i've got 3 of these puppies, two of which have a very thin caoting of copper on their steel tubing and on these two pieces, there are areas that lack the copper coating. Underneath the fittings, the copper is most evident(that areaq being somewhat "proteced" from the enviormental oxidation that would eventually "loose" the copper coating. anxious to see what the blueprints have to say on this issue. regards,mike

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                            • Mike M.
                              NCRS Past President
                              • May 31, 1974
                              • 8365

                              #29
                              Re: 57-65 FI question

                              john boy: i'd definitly replace the oil press gauge line with a copper coated steel line as i'm convinced the midyears had copper-coated oilpress lines. now getting back to the c-1 fi oil line to the distributor: i've got 3 of these puppies, two of which have a very thin caoting of copper on their steel tubing and on these two pieces, there are areas that lack the copper coating. Underneath the fittings, the copper is most evident(that areaq being somewhat "proteced" from the enviormental oxidation that would eventually "loose" the copper coating. anxious to see what the blueprints have to say on this issue. regards,mike

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                              • Gary C.
                                Administrator
                                • October 1, 1982
                                • 17549

                                #30
                                Re: 57-65 FI question

                                John, trying sealing with aircraft fuel lube sealer before you toss them. This stuff worked great to seal up my '57 fuel line, brakes and oil lines. Gary....
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