1972 Reproduction Key Envelope

[Terry M.]

Re: 1972 Reproduction Key Envelope

Sorry Gary, I misunderstood your question.

What I was stating is that we know there were two different envelopes -- 1968 & 1969 -- with different part numbers. What we don't know is if there was a third. My early 1970 had the 1969 envelope -- no surprise there.

The AIMs only show two part numbers, and as one follows the envelope mention in the AIMs 1972 doesn't show a key envelope. Does that mean 1972s didn't get one? We need some original owners of 1971s and 1972s to come forward, ideally with the goods, or testimony about the lack of it.

[Dave S.]

Re: 1972 Reproduction Key Envelope

Terry,
Are you saying there are two different part numbers on the "square" Key version.?......... I'm familiar with the octagon and square styles but only one version of each.

[Terry M.]

Re: 1972 Reproduction Key Envelope

I am NOT saying there ARE two different versions of the square key, just that there MAY BE. We need more evidence of key envelopes that can definitely be tied to specific 1971s and 1972s. That is my message, and my only message.

[Alan S.]

Re: 1972 Reproduction Key Envelope

Dave,
... and that envelope is typical for which year or years...please.
Regards,
Alan

[Dave S.]

Re: 1972 Reproduction Key Envelope

Alan,
I am not sure if the octagon key or square key is correct for 1968 but the square key style is correct for 1969-1971. The presence of the square key style in 1972 is up in the air as Terry points out. The octagon key style is correct for 1966-1967 and may also be right for 1965 but a mid year afficinado would have to verify that.

[Alan S.]

Re: 1972 Reproduction Key Envelope

Thanks Dave!!!

[Terry M.]

Re: 1972 Reproduction Key Envelope

There was a thread on the old discussion bored in which a well respected C2 enthusiast stated there was no key envelope for 1967. I have not checked a 1967 AIM to verify that, but as I recall there were no contradictions to his statement.
I believe that same thread had a picture of a 1968 key envelope with the octagon key.

FWIW: My 1970 came with the envelope with the square key, and a solid glue patch.

[Dave S.]

Re: 1972 Reproduction Key Envelope

Terry,
Your post prompted me to look at my key envelope from my 70 Bowtie car. I'm 99% sure its original because it has the proper key knockouts inside and the proper codes are recorded on the envelope. That envelope has the solid glue patch. The photos I posted the other day have the 2 glue spots and that one came from my 71 Bowtie car. I can't verify that it is original for sure (I'm the second owner) but many indications say it should be. Both envelopes have the same part number.

[Bill C.]

Re: 1972 Reproduction Key Envelope

I looked at my original key envelope - it has a single glue swatch.
It is the original for sure - 100% certain.

[Terry M.]

Re: 1972 Reproduction Key Envelope

Bill -- early or late 1972?

[John D.]

Re: 1972 Reproduction Key Envelope

Dave, Very easy part to have reproduced with the exception of the glue strip. Having them made by a printing company and not the cheater photo copy would be a breeze. But I doubt my man would be interested in messing with the specail glue strips. Nice pics. John D.

[Dave S.]

Re: 1972 Reproduction Key Envelope

John,
Lots or repros of both styles out there and they look very good. The glue strip is the way to tell. Problem with the octagon key style is that the originals did not have glue so the repros are blending right in. Over the years I've seen some creative ways to apply a glue strip but they are usually easy to see. As with most paper items the "patina" is very important in identifying original pieces however its not the end all. Lots of creative "patina" being done so we need to keep our eyes open.

[Bill C.]

Re: 1972 Reproduction Key Envelope

hey ---

my car was produced 2nd week April 1972.