63 block numbers and dates

[Chuck G.]

Re: 63 block numbers and dates

Now that the full story has come out, maybe you should thank the two guys who were actually judging this section of the car too.

Amen to that, Michael.

Chuck

[John D.]

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I agree. I have always been under the impression thru out the last 30 years or so of NCRS membership that the casting clock didn't start until sometime in 1964.
That clock should NOT be on a typical 63 Flint engine for sure. I say typical because the more I learn about these animals the less I know.
It's a dead give away that the engine is a replacement. This is something we learned in the late 70's and early 80's as I recall. I did anyhow. JD

[Jason A.]

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Just to confirm the 1964 model year switch-over here is a H293 (8/29/63) Flint block with a clock face. I know I'll be looking at some 64's this summer just to satisfy my curiosity.

[David D.]

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Not trying to steal this thread but I read above

including the length of the pad

Is this something that changed over the years? If so, can someone please tell me what the differences are?
Thanks,
David

[Wayne M.]

Re: 63 block numbers and dates

Not trying to steal this thread but I read above
Is this something that changed over the years? If so, can someone please tell me what the differences are?
Thanks,
David

Here's a short pad 870 from '63 FI #07055. Pic taken in summer '78, when I picked up my purchase and began the 2200 mile trip towing home.

Notice the gap between the inboard part of the flat stamp pad and that "rib" above the timing cover (in shadow). This also shows the "short leg" letter R.

This pad was made longer in '64(?)-up, almost becoming integral with the rib.

[Dino L.]

Re: 63 block numbers and dates

September 1963, 870 casting

Copy of engine casting number.jpg

[David D.]

Re: 63 block numbers and dates

Here's a short pad 870 from '63 FI #07055. Pic taken in summer '78, when I picked up my purchase and began the 2200 mile trip towing home.

Notice the gap between the inboard part of the flat stamp pad and that "rib" above the timing cover (in shadow). This also shows the "short leg" letter R.

This pad was made longer in '64(?)-up, almost becoming integral with the rib.

Thanks Wayne....

Anyone know when in '64 the change happeded?

Anyone have a picture of the difference? (Pic worth 1000 words)

David

[Wayne M.]

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Seems to be a general consensus that the casting clocks started on 870 blocks sometime during the 1964 model year, with posters providing pics of clocks at end of August and in September of 1963.

Noland's Vol 2 has an interesting paragraph on pg. 249. He says clock was added as a mid-production year change for 1964. He goes on to descibe the number of dots (10, representing shift hours).

This "dots" characteristic wasn't discussed in this long thread. Pics described above for early production '64s show 10 dots in the circle plus one dot above one of the others in the circle, facing inboard, in both cases. I have a November 30th 1964 block (K_30_4) that shows the same, even though this qualifies as a not-too-early '65 block.

But then Noland says that later in 1964 production, the 10 dots around the perimeter of the clock were increased to 11, to account for shifts running over the standard 10-hour shift.

Anybody seen 11 clock dots in 1964, 1965 or when ?

[John H.]

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Anybody seen 11 clock dots in 1964, 1965 or when ?

I have lots of 11-dot clock images from about May '65 up.