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I am so confused Why can't a judge come on and just tell me how they judge if my cars Milon Maroon is correct or not What do they use to judge if the color is correct or not hunting the car for original paint makes no sense 
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The color is MILANO Maroon...not Malone Maroon or Milon Maroon or Melon Maroon.
Whatsamatta' you, Rinaldis, you no spella' coRRECTly??!! You know, it'sa Italiano, like-ah PIZzah or-ah FeRRAReh. You say it like an old timey Italian street vendor might have said it...easy on the first syllable, hard on the second, and fade away on the third...MeeeeLAHNOooo.
Just to clarify...judges won't be looking for original paint on your car to judge it...well, not if it's been repainted; they already know how Milano Maroon looks. YOU are the one that has to look for original paint on your car so you can tell the paint guy to "MAKE IT THIS COLOR!"
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Well isn't that great you must be a judge
At first I thought this was going to be fun not so sure any more
pretty snooty may not for me I am only looking for help paying serious money to try to make my car correct but you know who cares Bye
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By the way dont reply I will not be coming to this site any moreComment
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Come on Sal! Lighten up! We love you and also your car. A little humor never hurts. Give us another chance.
The judges look at the COLOR and the PAINT. If you are having trouble with the color , there are certain updated modern color mixes that will aproximate the old Maroon laquer. These formua's are readily available. Make sure your painter has them.
There is a new juding system that gives all owners a chance for getting a better score if certain details are adheared to. See the "paint" part of the "standard deductions" in the judging manual.Comment
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HELLO!!!...Two Big Grin smiley faces means falling down laughing WITH YOU, NOT AT YOU.
You're beginning to take on a pouty, defensive attitude about people here not bending over backwards to help you, when in fact they have. Meet us half way here...at least read enough basic info to KNOW the name of the freakin' color. Start with the NCRS 65-66 Technical Information and Judging Manual, NCRS 1953-1967 Corvette Specifications Guide, or Mike Antonick's Corvette Black Book
For your information, ALL JUDGES are not exterior judges. The judges for paint are usually the same individuals at all the regionals I attend, and to my knowledge, they are mostly people who have been involved with Corvette paint forever. Few of those individuals that judge C2 paint are regular posters here to my knowledge.
There is no way ANYONE, exterior judge or not, can describe to you in words on the internet how to perfectly match the color called Milano Maroon. Judges will know it exactly when they see it, but they can't tell you what it looks like beyond "a dark maroon".
Find some original paint somewhere on your car...on the floor pans under the carpet, under the convertible deck lid, etc, then work with your painter to get the color as close to that sample as possible.
Then after your painter has digested that thought, tell him you want it to look like incompletely buffed acrylic lacquer. If he still remembers what acrylic lacquer was, can match the color in whatever product, and is successful at meeting your request to make it look like incompletely buffed acrylic lacquer, you'll get full credit for your paint.
There ain't no secrets here. If you want to use modern materials, techniques for making modern BC/CC or single stage urethane look like lacquer have been discussed at regional seminars and on this board for ten years...research the archives; it's all in there if you're interested enough to do the research.
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Looks like he has left the building.
Hopefully he is lurking and reading your well stated description Chuck.
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The color is MILANO Maroon...not Malone Maroon or Milon Maroon or Melon Maroon.
Whatsamatta' you, Rinaldis, you no spella' coRRECTly??!! You know, it'sa Italiano, like-ah PIZzah or-ah FeRRAReh. You say it like an old timey Italian street vendor might have said it...easy on the first syllable, hard on the second, and fade away on the third...MeeeeLAHNOooo.
Just to clarify...judges won't be looking for original paint on your car to judge it...well, not if it's been repainted; they already know how Milano Maroon looks. YOU are the one that has to look for original paint on your car so you can tell the paint guy to "MAKE IT THIS COLOR!"
Chuck, thank you for making me laugh my Italian butt off. Hey, at least he didn't call it Marelbero or HondUUUUUURASSSS Maroon!!! In a way, I can't blame the guy.....paint is the most expensive & frustrating part of this whole hobby. But it's still fun!Comment
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Sal,
I think at least part of the problem with trying to match original Milano Maroon is that there are so few cars left with their original paint that very few folks know what it's supposed to look like.
The paint suppliers sure didn't know. If you ordered a quart from every supplier, each would have been a different shade of maroon. Ditzler, for example, was too purple. R&M was too red and SW was too brown.
Supposedly, with the new computer mixing equipment of today, the colors aremuch better than in years past. However, the original fine metallic flake is no longer available so even with the computer mix, the results are going to be inaccurate.
About the best a person can do is try to have paint mixed to match a small section of original paint that may still be on your car. If you have a conv., the underside of the deck lid is usually an excellent area to use for matching paint. If a coupe, hopefully the door jambs are still in original paint.
Or, maybe someone else on this board that does have some helpful information can get involved. I seem to remember a discussion about this color in the not too distant past. Check the archives using Milano Maroon for search words.Comment
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HaHaHa... Thanks for not being offended, Jeremy, and understanding that no offense was intended.
I grew up with kids of Italian extraction...yes, in Texas...and, no, none of them spoke with any accents but Texas drawls. I should have married one that was taught to cook by her mama. I doubt they still spoke Italian at home, but the parents knew the language, and culinary skills were still being handed down from one generation to the next.
"Nexta' weeka' we getta' to da Germans."
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Ringraziamenti tutto per la vostra conoscenza!
There are two kinds of friends; the friend you call to bail you out of jail and the friend sitting next to you in the cell saying "Damn, that was great"!!!
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I learned a hard lesson when repainting my Milano Maroon '65 (in 1979 with lacquer). I used a dark brown primer. When I sanded through the brown on the fender crowns, I used a light gray primer. I painted the MM lacquer, sanded and buffed it (not trying for all original). In the garage, it looked fine. When I pulled it out in the sun there was a very noticeable color difference between the dark brown primer areas and the light gray primer areas. So even the primer can result in a noticeable color difference. I think the dark brown primer was a better match to the original MM, but I sanded it down to glass and repainted with light gray primer; it resulted in a much redder color (in the sun) than the dark brown primer...still love the color!Comment
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Ah, Anthony, I do love the language...and the food...and the fact that Italian cultural influence survives in America. I can't speak the language, but I love it. You could have told me to kiss your backside, and without a translation, I would've thought you read me a poem. HaHaHa...
Stay safe out there.
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Hey Chuck. Try "babel fish" on the net. It more or less works, and sometimes is real funny.TerryComment
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