1992 Owners

[John M.]

1992 Owners.

I am interested in knowing from owners of 1992 Corvettes if any of you have with your owner's information the following documents.
I would especially like to hear from any original 1992 owner and if you would not mind detailing for me the console (glove box) contents you received with your car.
1. A Recommended Maintenance Schedule
2. A black plastic emergency key cut from the door key for emergency
entrance if one is locked out of the car.
3. An Instruction Sheet for this emergency key.

Thanks,
John Marsico
17709

[Joe L.]

Re: 1992 Owners

1992 Owners.

I am interested in knowing from owners of 1992 Corvettes if any of you have with your owner's information the following documents.
I would especially like to hear from any original 1992 owner and if you would not mind detailing for me the console (glove box) contents you received with your car.
1. A Recommended Maintenance Schedule
2. A black plastic emergency key cut from the door key for emergency
entrance if one is locked out of the car.
3. An Instruction Sheet for this emergency key.

Thanks,
John Marsico
17709

John-----


I am the original owner of my 1992 coupe, delivered November 24, 1991. The console storage compartment contained the following:

1) socket for standard wheel nuts;

2) socket for locking wheel nuts;

3) roof panel ratchet wrench

4) leather-like, zippered portfolio containing the items shown in the photos below.

[John M.]

Re: 1992 Owners

Hi Joe:

Thank you for responding. First, I have one quick question. Are you related to Bill Lucia? Bill was a member of our NCRS chapter in Colorado until his job took him out of state.

Your console contents and mine are some the same and some different, Like you, I am also the original owner taking delivery on 7/29/92. As a result, my car has a June, 92 build date.
My console contents are the same as yours in that I have the following items as well:
1. socket for standard wheel nuts
2. socket for locking wheel nuts
3. roof panel ratchet wrench
4. leather-like, zippered portfolio containing some of the same items but
containing some items that are different and missing some of your
itmes.

Like you, I have the following items:
1. 1992 Owner's manual
2. 1992 Warranty and Owner Asistance information
3. Highway Auto & Light Truck Tire Adjustment Policy
4. 1 black plastic emergency key pouch with a black plastic door key
5. 1 penlight flashlight
6. 1 tire guage
7. 1 ball point pen
8. 3 black Corvette business cards in the inserts
9. 1 C4 logo notepad

I do not have the following items:
1. Roadside Assistance pamphlet
2. the two small white pieces of paper in your photo that are titled
Corvette. From the photo, I can't read exactly what they say.
3. The small red roadsize piece that you also show in your photo. Again, I
can't make out what it says.

Instead, my portfolio contained these additional items when I took delivery:
1. 4 individual pamphlets detailing the GM Protection Plan
2. 1 Pamphlet titled Passenger Car Exterior Colors containing paint chips
3. 1 card detailing on one side the new vehicle break-in for the manual
transmission only and on the other side the anti lock brake system
4. 1 card that appears it should slip over the emergency brake titled
Parking Brake
5. 1 1992 Video with accompanying letter to owners
6. 1 cassette tape titled Chevrolet Music Sampler
7. 1 extra set of keys with knockouts.

I am wondering why 2 new cars were delivered to their new owners with different console contents. I wonder if an early build as opposed to a late build would have anything to do with it. What do you think?

I am assuming putting my hands on the 3 items you show in your photos that I don't have would be like chasing mercury in a dark closet. After 16+ years, what are the chances?

One final question that has nothing to do with owner's information material.

I still have my original tires mounted on the original wheels with the original wheel weights. When the tires were getting to the point where I felt it was not smart to continue using them, I purchased new tires mounted on a different set of Corvette wheels. I stored the original stuff in the garage. Here is my question: My wheel weights are not covered with a white plastic covering, they are just the bare metal type. What do your weights look like?

Thanks for your help,

John

[Joe L.]

Re: 1992 Owners

Hi Joe:

Thank you for responding. First, I have one quick question. Are you related to Bill Lucia? Bill was a member of our NCRS chapter in Colorado until his job took him out of state.

Your console contents and mine are some the same and some different, Like you, I am also the original owner taking delivery on 7/29/92. As a result, my car has a June, 92 build date.
My console contents are the same as yours in that I have the following items as well:
1. socket for standard wheel nuts
2. socket for locking wheel nuts
3. roof panel ratchet wrench
4. leather-like, zippered portfolio containing some of the same items but
containing some items that are different and missing some of your
itmes.

Like you, I have the following items:
1. 1992 Owner's manual
2. 1992 Warranty and Owner Asistance information
3. Highway Auto & Light Truck Tire Adjustment Policy
4. 1 black plastic emergency key pouch with a black plastic door key
5. 1 penlight flashlight
6. 1 tire guage
7. 1 ball point pen
8. 3 black Corvette business cards in the inserts
9. 1 C4 logo notepad

I do not have the following items:
1. Roadside Assistance pamphlet
2. the two small white pieces of paper in your photo that are titled
Corvette. From the photo, I can't read exactly what they say.
3. The small red roadsize piece that you also show in your photo. Again, I
can't make out what it says.

Instead, my portfolio contained these additional items when I took delivery:
1. 4 individual pamphlets detailing the GM Protection Plan
2. 1 Pamphlet titled Passenger Car Exterior Colors containing paint chips
3. 1 card detailing on one side the new vehicle break-in for the manual
transmission only and on the other side the anti lock brake system
4. 1 card that appears it should slip over the emergency brake titled
Parking Brake
5. 1 1992 Video with accompanying letter to owners
6. 1 cassette tape titled Chevrolet Music Sampler
7. 1 extra set of keys with knockouts.

I am wondering why 2 new cars were delivered to their new owners with different console contents. I wonder if an early build as opposed to a late build would have anything to do with it. What do you think?

I am assuming putting my hands on the 3 items you show in your photos that I don't have would be like chasing mercury in a dark closet. After 16+ years, what are the chances?

One final question that has nothing to do with owner's information material.

I still have my original tires mounted on the original wheels with the original wheel weights. When the tires were getting to the point where I felt it was not smart to continue using them, I purchased new tires mounted on a different set of Corvette wheels. I stored the original stuff in the garage. Here is my question: My wheel weights are not covered with a white plastic covering, they are just the bare metal type. What do your weights look like?

Thanks for your help,

John

John-----

The 2 white cards describe:

1) The fact that the video is included with the portfolio, but after its removal, the portfolio will fit in the compartment. I don't recall my video being in the portfolio, but it may have been. In any event, I did get the video and removed it from the car long ago;

2) Storage instructions for the wheel wrench followed by information about a hardtop rack and cover being available from the dealer.

The small, red roadside assistance piece is a plastic card to carry in your wallet with roadside assistance phone number and other info. There were originally TWO cards on this sheet; I removed one and carried it in my wallet.

I did receive extra keys with the car, but they were not in the center compartment; they were in a manila envelope the dealer gave me with other paperwork.


There was nothing in my car regarding:

1) GM Vehicle Protection Plan

2) Paint chips

3) Vehicle break-in procedures for manual trans (my car is a 6 speed)

4) Cassette tape (I did receive one of these with a Camaro I purchased before the Corvette)

The wheel weights on my car which are original appear to be natural lead. However, I think they are actually coated with a clear coat, not the white plastic coating seen on some aluminum wheel weights.

It is not uncommon, at all, for contents of the center compartment or otherwise supplied information to change during a model year, especially over a period as long as that between the build dates of our cars.

Also, I am not related that I know of to Bill Lucia. The Lucia side of my family is pretty much concentrated in the northeast and northern California.

[John M.]

Re: 1992 Owners

Hi Joe:

Thanks again for all your help. it is interesting how 2 1992 6 speed cars can be delivered with different information in the console. I have a feeling it is related to 2 things. 1. different things done at Bowling Green from the beginning of the model run to the end of the model run. And, 2. Dealer discretion. I know a Chevy dealer in my areapretty well and I was talking with his new car sales manager. Listening to his description of what their guys do to prep a new Corvette for delivery is different that what many dealers in the area do.

I think our 2 cars have the same wheel weights. I can't tell if the weights have a clear coat over, they have a little over 24k miles on them but from the description of yours, I think they are the same. I have seen wheel weights with the white plastic coating, but they were on a 790 mile 1990 ZR1 that was attempting the McLellan at the recent National Convention. I'm guessing Chevrolet dropped that type of coating by 1992 as a cost cutting measure. If I recall, 1992 was a difficult financial year for all of GM. A small savings on one item over a large number of cars can really add up.

If I think of any other questions regarding my 92, I'll get back to you as I don't know anyone in the Denver area that is an original owner of a 92 that they still own. It has been great sharing information with you. Thanks again,

John

[Robert Z.]

Re: 1992 Owners

John, I'll throw my 2 cents in. My '92 is a 6 speed coupe purchased from the original owner. The guy saved everything from the original order to every service receipt. In response to the Maintenance Schedule: Whereas it used to be a separate document, for 1992 it is incorporated into the Owners Manual beginning on Page 301.

My console contents mirror yours with respect to the black zippered case; i.e. pen, tire gauge, flashlight, elastic hoop for the wheel lock tool, note pad with C4 logo, salesman and service manager;'s business cards and emergency key. In addition to the owner's manual my case also included the Goodyear Tire Adjustment Policy leaflet, Corvette Roadside Assistance brochure, Chevrolet Satisfaction System brochure,1992 Warranty & Owner Assistance Information brochure and Protect Your Investment brochure "Tips on Keeping your new Chvrolet Running Right" Lastly there are two white cardstock notices; one that states "CORVETTE Store lug wrench in the elastic holder located directly below the pen and penlight" and "CORVETTE OWNERS PLEASE NOTE: After you remove the video tape from this Portfolio package, the unit will store in the center console. Please keep this unit in your Corvette so it will be there if you ever need the manuals when you are on the road."

Hope this info helps us better understand the '92 console contents.

[John M.]

Re: 1992 Owners

Hi Bob:

Thank you for your reply. I find it very interesting to see what was actually included in the console contents from the vaious owners. Even though I am the original owner, and I, like your original owner, saved every piece of paper, I did not receive some of the items you have. I did not receive the Corvette Roadside Assistance brochure, and the Chevrolet Satisfaction System brochure. I also did not receive the card stock announcements regarding the lug wrench elastic loop and the video removal. I also did not receive the black plastic bag these contents came it. I am sure the dealer's new car prep guy pitched the bag. Regarding the other items, I have no idea why I did not receive them.

I did get from the dealer the MSO and before I had to turn it in to Colorado Motor Vehicle to license the car, I made several copies.

Do you still have the original tires? If so, would you mind checking the wheel weights. Bill Lucia, another NCRS member who responded, and I have identical weights but they are different that what the judging manual states. Niether one of us have white plastic coated weights. Both of us have what appears to be a clear coated natural lead weights . Two cars now appearing different from the judging manual.

Speaking of the judging manual, it states 1992 owners should have a recommended maintenance schedule. Like you and Bill, I never got one. I agree with you, it was deleted from the 1992 cars as it is extensively reviewed in the owner's manual. I can't see GM duplicating efforts creating more cost per car.

Thanks for your reply.

John

[Robert Z.]

Re: 1992 Owners

John,

I believe the 92-93 Judging Manual is incorrect regarding the "white" coating on the wheel weights. Typically they are clear coated with a vinyl substance much as you have described on your original wheels and tires. Unfortunately I don't have the original tires. Your description of the weights is exactly the same as my '93 ruby which has the original wheels and tires.

I believe the Team Leader for 90-93 (Tom Barr) has acknowledged that the manual is also incorrect as to the Maintenance Schedule thus supporting our contention that it was incorporated into the Owner's Manual and was no longer a separate brochure.

Bob

[John M.]

Re: 1992 Owners

Hi Bob:

Thanks for looking at the wheel weights on your 93 Ruby Red car. I am sure the white platic coating went away by at least 92. I spoke with Jim Clemens in Florida and he also agrees with us (and Tom Barr) that the 92 did not have a separate Maintenance Schedule.

John

[Chuck B.]

Re: 1992 Owners

Hi John, while not the original owner of my June built 1992 ZR-1, I did receive most of the console contents from the original owner when I purchased the car in June 1994. In addition to the items you list I also have a 3 1/2 X 7" wheel lock ID card which also has ordering info for an extra key and a 8 1/2 X 11" instruction sheet for installation of the wheel locknut. The instruction sheet has a GM part #10180892. I removed the original wheels and tires at 11,000 miles. The wheel weights on those wheels appear to have a glossy clear coat over a gray weight. My zippered portfolio has ZR-1 imprinted on it so it could be that the contents were slightly different with the ZR-1 option. I tried the penlight when looking through the portfolio tonight and it seems to be as bright as when new. I wonder if that will be part of the PV?
Chuck Banks

[Joe L.]

Re: 1992 Owners

Hi John, while not the original owner of my June built 1992 ZR-1, I did receive most of the console contents from the original owner when I purchased the car in June 1994. In addition to the items you list I also have a 3 1/2 X 7" wheel lock ID card which also has ordering info for an extra key and a 8 1/2 X 11" instruction sheet for installation of the wheel locknut. The instruction sheet has a GM part #10180892. I removed the original wheels and tires at 11,000 miles. The wheel weights on those wheels appear to have a glossy clear coat over a gray weight. My zippered portfolio has ZR-1 imprinted on it so it could be that the contents were slightly different with the ZR-1 option. I tried the penlight when looking through the portfolio tonight and it seems to be as bright as when new. I wonder if that will be part of the PV?
Chuck Banks

Chuck-----

If I were you, I'd remove the battery from the penlight. I never thought to remove mine, but when I inspected it, the light did not work and the battery had leaked. I was able to clean up the leakage damage and install a new battery to test. It worked fine. I'll leave a battery out of it now, though.

[Bill M.]

Re: 1992 Owners

Just got my '92 out of storage for the NCRS picnic at the Woodward Dream Cruise here in Detroit. Parked next to Dave McLellan's dark green '93 ZR-1. (Do you suppose his car would qualify for the you-know-what award?)

I took pictures of my console contents and two wheel weights. I am not the original owner (we are still in touch), but he saved everything.

I picked the car up with 7600 miles and the original owner only changed the windshield, battery, and oil filter. These are the original wheels and tires that I removed at about 10.000 miles.

The car received no deductions for console contents or wheel and tire originality at the Michigan Regional. Tom Barr was the team leader.
(Thanks, Tom)

Joe: I just took my batteries out of the penlight. Good tip!

[Joe L.]

Re: 1992 Owners

Just got my '92 out of storage for the NCRS picnic at the Woodward Dream Cruise here in Detroit. Parked next to Dave McLellan's dark green '93 ZR-1. (Do you suppose his car would qualify for the you-know-what award?)

I took pictures of my console contents and two wheel weights. I am not the original owner (we are still in touch), but he saved everything.

I picked the car up with 7600 miles and the original owner only changed the windshield, battery, and oil filter. These are the original wheels and tires that I removed at about 10.000 miles.

The car received no deductions for console contents or wheel and tire originality at the Michigan Regional. Tom Barr was the team leader.
(Thanks, Tom)

Joe: I just took my batteries out of the penlight. Good tip!

Bill-----


Your wheel weights are identical to mine. By the way, this style wheel weight is referred to as "AWS". There are several different styles used across the "universe" of GM and other manufacturer's OEM wheels.

[John M.]

Re: 1992 Owners

Hi John, while not the original owner of my June built 1992 ZR-1, I did receive most of the console contents from the original owner when I purchased the car in June 1994. In addition to the items you list I also have a 3 1/2 X 7" wheel lock ID card which also has ordering info for an extra key and a 8 1/2 X 11" instruction sheet for installation of the wheel locknut. The instruction sheet has a GM part #10180892. I removed the original wheels and tires at 11,000 miles. The wheel weights on those wheels appear to have a glossy clear coat over a gray weight. My zippered portfolio has ZR-1 imprinted on it so it could be that the contents were slightly different with the ZR-1 option. I tried the penlight when looking through the portfolio tonight and it seems to be as bright as when new. I wonder if that will be part of the PV?
Chuck Banks

Thanks Chuck for taking the time to reply to my questions. It appears you and I have the same console contents. I also have a wheel lock ID card with ordering instructions. I don't seem to have an 81/2 x 11 instruction sheet detailing installation of the wheel locknut. The wheel weights you have on your car are identical to the ones I have on my car. I know these are original. My penlight batteries died long ago (I am anal, I saved them) and put new batteries for the PV test. Tom Barr was the PV judge and he did not adk me to turn on the penlight. The car passed the PV and I was ready to turn on that little penlight if asked. Because my car is not a ZR1, my black portofolio does not have ZR1 imprinted on it. I also think it is a good idea to keep the batteries out of the penlight.

[John M.]

Re: 1992 Owners

Just got my '92 out of storage for the NCRS picnic at the Woodward Dream Cruise here in Detroit. Parked next to Dave McLellan's dark green '93 ZR-1. (Do you suppose his car would qualify for the you-know-what award?)

I took pictures of my console contents and two wheel weights. I am not the original owner (we are still in touch), but he saved everything.

I picked the car up with 7600 miles and the original owner only changed the windshield, battery, and oil filter. These are the original wheels and tires that I removed at about 10.000 miles.

The car received no deductions for console contents or wheel and tire originality at the Michigan Regional. Tom Barr was the team leader.
(Thanks, Tom)

Joe: I just took my batteries out of the penlight. Good tip!

Hi Bill: I hope you had a great day at the Woodward Dream Cruise. My wife and I went back in 2005 and I came away from the experience saying that there was no possible way to fully describe it. I know we had a great time.

We have the same console contents with one exception. I am thinking the little card you have just above the black plastic key is a business card from the dealership. I also have a business card from the dealer that sold me the car. Consequently, I hope that little card (I can't make it out well enough to know what it really is) is from a dealer and not something I am missing.

The photos of your wheel weights are identical to the weights on my car. As I mentioned in my reply to Chuck Banks, I know they are original and correct, thanks for the photos.

Tom Barr was the PV judge for my car at the Colorado Regional it passed, thanks to Tom's great deal of patience as I must have sent him a zillion emails before the meet as I was getting ready for the test. Tom was also the Team Leader at the Nation Convention last July where the car earned a Top Flight. Tom is amazing, he knows a great deal about these cars. He is easy to talk with and will answer any question you might have. I know that from personal experience. I believe we are lucky to have him as the Team Leader.

I'm sure your car would earn the McLellan Award. Dave must have looked your car over as it was so close to his. Dave was at the National Convention and I asked him to sign my valve cover, he did and I lost 2 points for the signature. I think it was worth the point hit, what do you think? Thanks, John