67 Carpet Cut Outs for Seats

[Ralph B.]

I noticed some minor differences in the correct approach to this when I did a search, so to be as sure as possible before I start cutting I would appreciate it very much if you could please let me know if I have this OK:

Rears: Cut out completey around feet.

Fronts: Cut around three sides only leaving attached as a "hinge" towards the middle of the seat.

Thank you,
Ralph

[Stephen L.]

Re: 67 Carpet Cut Outs for Seats

You've got it!

[Patrick T.]

Re: 67 Carpet Cut Outs for Seats

You've got it!

Hey Steve, not to hijack this post but was the carpet padding completely cut around all the feet so it could be solidly bolted to the fiberglass floor?

It would seem that if you bolted the feet on the top of the padding, the seat would tend to rock back and forth.

I talked with you and Jerry Fucillo by email some time ago and one of you said he completely cut out the carpet where the rear feet go and he got dinged a point when judging for not having the flaps in the rear ???? PT

[Stephen L.]

Re: 67 Carpet Cut Outs for Seats

As I understand it, There were/are no flaps on the rear anchor points. The undercarpet insulation should be cut out providing a solid surface to anchor too at all 4 points.

The photo is of an original carpet (67) and appears to have no insulation. The front flaps appear to be gone... but should be there. Reason; this area is visible when the seat is retracted. The rear anchor points are not visible when entering exiting the car.... thus no flaps.

I received this photo from another forum contributor... don't remember the name.

[Patrick T.]

Re: 67 Carpet Cut Outs for Seats

Thanks for clearing that up Steve. I have that picture also. It's the original carpet from John Hinckley's '67 before it underwent a frame off restoration. PT

[John H.]

Re: 67 Carpet Cut Outs for Seats

That's not my car, but the photos were sent to me by someone who bought their '67 from the original owner and he was in process of replacing the known-original carpets; another photo below shows the full cutout for the rear "foot" on the left and the hinged 3-sided cutout for the front "foot" on the right.

[Gerard F.]

Hate to disagree, guys

But I think the rear pads on a 67 are supposed to have the flaps.

The diagram I posted a week or so ago, was one given to me by the master, John Kennedy, at a tech session at the 2006 Las Vegas Regional.
Here's another copy:



For the fronts pads, he is indicating the "same" left to right.

But for the rears, he is indicating double flaps and folds.

So that's the way I'm doing mine. I guess if that is wrong, I'll just cut them off. But then again, maybe the pictures of the full cutouts were just that the flaps fell off over the years.

On the pads below the carpet, my 67 has a full cutout, similar to the carpet cutout diagram for 63-66

[Mike M.]

Re: 67 Carpet Cut Outs for Seats

A little tip, if you are having your car judged with rear cut-outs rather than flaps.
It would be a nice touch to have the cut-out pieces sitting on the carpet, visibly behind the seat.
HaND

[Gerard F.]

Re: 67 Carpet Cut Outs for Seats

Mike,

Actually I'm going to do the carpet cuts on my new front carpet set this weekend. I'll be doing the flaps on the rear pads.

And probably leaving a copy of John Kennedy's diagram under the seat for judging this late September

Actually it was the 2007 Las Vegas Regional. You were there, weren't you?

[Mike M.]

Re: 67 Carpet Cut Outs for Seats

Yep, Jerry, I was there in the dusty wind tunnel.
Just between you and me, I hope no one is listening, it seems that the cut-outs may have been on earlier cars with the flaps coming later. Since the flap requires one less cut for the line worker, could be.
There hasn't been a need to keep track until now and I really haven't paid that much attention to the build dates, now I will. Since I have no documentation or data at this point, it's just a theory. I didn't mention it, because I didn't want to open that whole can of worms. Let this be "Our Little Secret".
Where are you having your car Judged in Sept?
HaND

[Gerard F.]

Re: 67 Carpet Cut Outs for Seats

NCC Chapter meet at Elk Grove, CA, Sept 27-28. I think I'm one of the 4 cars being judged but haven't had that confirmed yet.

Small group but a great setting.

For your data base, my car is a very late 67, 22049. I think the originals had the flaps on the rear but can't say for sure. I replaced them before my NCRS involvement, and thought that it would be cleaner to just put the seat track pads over the carpet. Now I'm doing them the right way (or at least trying to )

[Kirk M.]

Re: Hate to disagree, guys

But I think the rear pads on a 67 are supposed to have the flaps.

The diagram I posted a week or so ago, was one given to me by the master, John Kennedy, at a tech session at the 2006 Las Vegas Regional.
Here's another copy:



For the fronts pads, he is indicating the "same" left to right.

But for the rears, he is indicating double flaps and folds.

So that's the way I'm doing mine. I guess if that is wrong, I'll just cut them off. But then again, maybe the pictures of the full cutouts were just that the flaps fell off over the years.

On the pads below the carpet, my 67 has a full cutout, similar to the carpet cutout diagram for 63-66

Jerry,

Could you post the diagram or a pick of the correct rear flaps? I'm not quite seeing the words alone. Thanks.

Kirk

[Patrick T.]

Re: 67 Carpet Cut Outs for Seats

NCC For your data base, my car is a very late 67, 22049. I think the originals had the flaps on the rear but can't say for sure. I replaced them before my NCRS involvement, and thought that it would be cleaner to just put the seat track pads over the carpet. Now I'm doing them the right way (or at least trying to )

My late '67 is 22,526, built on July 9th. I should be getting my ACC carpet next week and will leave the rear flaps on. I can always cut them off. I like the diagram you posted so I ran it through Photo Shop and made is a bit easier to see. Thanks, PT

[Gerard F.]

Re: Hate to disagree, guys

Kirk,

If anyone would like a full size jpeg of the diagram (much clearer), just email me with your address, and I'll send it out tonight when I get home.

[Dave M.]

Re: 67 Carpet Cut Outs for Seats

Hi Mike, My 36,000 mile original unrestored 67 Vette was built on 9-23-66 with vin being 1576 and still has the original carpet in it. Only the fronts have the flaps and the rears are cut out. I plan on having the car judged at Bloomington next June. Hopefully you'll be the interior Judge as you were in '02 when I had my 400 HP '67 Judged.
Hope you do keep track of this flap vs. cutout change for I would not want to see a deduction on my car since it is so original and did score a 97.2 last October at the Heart of Ohio meet at Lancaster, Ohio.
Best Regards,
Dave Marmet