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  • John H.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • December 1, 1997
    • 16513

    #16
    Re: GM reissue protecto plate??

    The purchaser's name and address wasn't known by the plant when the P-O-P (with all the powertrain numbers/codes) was created at the end of the Final Line; that's why it was added by the dealer, using the Dymo tapewriter and the clear tape with the GM logo. When a second owner applied for transfer of the warranty within the warranty period, the dealer sent the original P-O-P to the Zone office, and they created a new one with the second owner's name and address and the VIN, but none of the powertrain numbers/codes.

    67's had a 24-month/24,000-mile basic warranty, and '67 was the first year of the 5-year/50,000-mile powertrain warranty.

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    • Rich G.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • August 31, 2002
      • 1396

      #17
      Re: GM reissue protecto plate??

      So, if I have a POP that is all stamped in metal and has the original owners name and address on it along with the correct drive train info, it sounds like it is a fake. Has anyone seen another like that or know of anybody selling those in the past? The one I have has the owners name and address in a different type size than the other info.

      Rich
      1966 L79 Convertible. Milano Maroon
      1968 L71 Coupe. Rally Red (Sold 6/21)
      1963 Corvair Monza Convertible

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      • Terry M.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • September 30, 1980
        • 15573

        #18
        Re: GM reissue protecto plate??

        Rich,
        Neither the one you have, nor the GM reissue as described in other posts, are Typical Factory Production (TFP). That will be the key determinant in judging. After that the questions of authenticity relate to the quality of documentation of the vehicle -- which bears not on NCRS judging, but on resale value.
        Terry

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        • Jack C.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • September 30, 1992
          • 1090

          #19
          Re: GM reissue protecto plate??

          I also have seen a original POP with white embossed plastic over half of the metal card with the original owner's name and address as well as the other info embossed onto the plastic. Any thoughts?
          Jack Corso
          1972 Elkhart Green LT-1 Coupe 43,200 miles
          Top Flight 1994, 2018 & 2021

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          • Terry M.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • September 30, 1980
            • 15573

            #20
            Re: GM reissue protecto plate??

            White embossed plastic? You mean white plastic tape?
            Mine has regular Dymo tape -- not the clear with the GM logo. I can't now remember if it is blue or green tape. I would have to look when I am at home. I figure either my dealer was out of the GM tape or was too frugal to spend the extra bucks on it.
            Terry

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            • Jack C.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • September 30, 1992
              • 1090

              #21
              Re: GM reissue protecto plate??

              White plastic, no tape. Half of the metal card (with correct info) is covered up with a piece of white plastic which looks like it was tailored to fit and glued on with the owners info,

              Fred Keen
              14005 Kentuckey
              Detroit, MICH.
              2-1-68 41801

              All backwards by the embossing machine. Also below that on the owners protection Booklet is the Dealer name rubber stamped in and below that is the "DATE VEHICLE ORIGINALLY PLACED IN SERVICE" date of FEB 1 1968
              Jack Corso
              1972 Elkhart Green LT-1 Coupe 43,200 miles
              Top Flight 1994, 2018 & 2021

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              • Terry M.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • September 30, 1980
                • 15573

                #22
                Re: GM reissue protecto plate??

                Interesting. More for us to learn.
                Terry

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                • Lorne G.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • June 30, 1988
                  • 118

                  #23
                  Re: GM reissue protecto plate??

                  Hi Dave,
                  My 67 has a reissued protecto plate. My 67 is a Canadian car and the warranty book is bilingual English / French. The female original owner married six months after purchasing the car and also re-located to another province. She had the protecto replaced with her new married name and new address. Included in the warranty book was an instruction sheet from GM Canada advising the owner to remove the original cover of the warranty book and re-attach the new cover and protecto plate to the existing warranty book and to apply along the gummed seam.

                  The new protecto plate is basically the same shape metal plate but has less information. The owner's name and address is on a black dymo tape stuck to the metal plate. There are a few entires in the warranty book where this reissued protecto plate was used.

                  Hope this helps.
                  Lorne

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                  • Jim B.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • July 31, 2002
                    • 146

                    #24
                    Re: GM reissue protecto plate??

                    As the original owner of a 68, my warrantee book states that the car had 24month bumper to bumper warrantee with a 5 year 50,000 mile powertrain, suspension, and steering warrantee. The warantee was transferrable only to the second owner of the car.

                    The protectoplate has the car info stamped on the metal part of the plate lower section with dymo tape with GM logo (clear tape), having owner info imprinted on the upper section.

                    This plate was used in a credit card imprint machine whenever warrantee or recall work was performed.

                    When I bought the car, the dealer told me that the 69's had only a 12 month bumper to bumper (I never checked this out). Since both cars were on the showroom floor when I bought my very late 68, this played a big part in my decision to buy the 68. (besides I always had a weak spot for the 327 engine)
                    Jim Boudreaux
                    LA Chapter, NCRS

                    _____________________________
                    1968 British Green Convertible 327/350HP Original Owner
                    2002 Z06 Black on Black Original Owner
                    2007 Z06 Velocity Yellow w/Black/Titainium Original Owner

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                    • Ian H.
                      Frequent User
                      • July 31, 2004
                      • 76

                      #25
                      Re: GM reissue protecto plate??

                      Originally posted by Louis Trohatos (40341)
                      Hi Dave,

                      What an interesting story. What seems a little odd to me - weren't warranties typically only a matter of months in those days, or was this car sitting on the dealer lot (or in the showroom) or being used as a demo car all that time? And why would the warranty booklet and POP have been reissued? Were the originals lost, or was there a failed sale to another purchaser that, e.g., backed out of the deal, but they already had filled out the original booklet and POP? Did the dealer stamp the trim tag with a date? That might help corroborate the story.

                      Louis
                      My former 1967 SS396 Chevelle was warrantied for 5 years/50,000 miles on the power train and I had a Chevy dealer engine rebuild just prior to 50,000 miles and 5 years as it was burning oil due to street racing (although I didn't tell them that). I only had to pay for new fluids (oil and coolant).

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                      • Wayne M.
                        Expired
                        • March 1, 1980
                        • 6414

                        #26
                        Re: GM reissue protecto plate??

                        Originally posted by John Hinckley (29964)
                        ...67's had a 24-month/24,000-mile basic warranty, and '67 was the first year of the 5-year/50,000-mile powertrain warranty.
                        Pulled this out of a '67 era newstand automotive magazine -- shows details of the powertrain warrany (and limitations / obligations).
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                        • Henry S.
                          Infrequent User
                          • January 1, 1993
                          • 24

                          #27
                          Re: GM reissue protecto plate??

                          I know I am adding to a posting dating back to 2008, but I thought I would give it a try and if I don't receive any replies, I will post an entirely new entry. My question relates to a re issued P-O-P for a 1967 Corvette. With that said, has anyone encountered any circumstances when an original or previous owner has moved or relocated while the vehicle was still under factory warranty and had a P-O-P reissued to reflect a new dealership which would now be providing warranty service/maintenance for the vehicle ? Thank you.
                          P.S., I just finished reading Tom Dingman's article in Winter 2020 issue of The Corvette Restorer regarding "Early GM Protecto-O-Plates". Found it to be informative and well written.

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                          • Rich G.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • August 31, 2002
                            • 1396

                            #28
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                            1966 L79 Convertible. Milano Maroon
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