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  • Lyndon S.
    Expired
    • April 30, 1988
    • 1027

    Exhaust Tips 70-72

    How well does Paragons exhaust tips judge compared to a set of over the counter with the part numbers stamped in them? I know the paragon tips use stainless steel, so that should be a 4 point deduct.
  • Paul O.
    Frequent User
    • August 31, 1990
    • 1716

    #2
    Re: Exhaust Tips 70-72

    You are right about the s/s deduct. I am not not sure if I have looked at one of these yet but if the welds, notch, finish, metal thickness, and other config issues are right then that would be the only deduct. But odds are there will be some of these item's that won't meet the standard and then the judges would deduct points to what the see as incorrect. Paul 18046

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    • William C.
      NCRS Past President
      • May 31, 1975
      • 6037

      #3
      Re: Exhaust Tips 70-72

      I'd bet it near impossible to get a part made out of Stainless that would duplicate the thickness, bends, and messy welds of the originals. Thus Originality would suffer in many respects with a judge who actually has seen originals.
      Bill Clupper #618

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      • Lyndon S.
        Expired
        • April 30, 1988
        • 1027

        #4
        Re: Exhaust Tips 70-72

        This is a shot of them from the online catalog
        Attached Files

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        • Dennis D.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • March 1, 2000
          • 1071

          #5
          Re: Exhaust Tips 70-72

          Just went through this on the CF. Dug up some pics of one I had that had been removed from a car early on (first design), and had forgotten just how thick the metal was, (not to mention the great weld job )

          BTW... What is the deduct for someone not having this piece, which was installed on the line to about 14000, and having the second design ?



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          • Paul O.
            Frequent User
            • August 31, 1990
            • 1716

            #6
            Re: Exhaust Tips 70-72

            My deduct would be very small due the only difference is the weld bead in the center I would say .25 or .5 for both minor issue if you look at the tip as a whole. Paul 18046

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            • William C.
              NCRS Past President
              • May 31, 1975
              • 6037

              #7
              Re: Exhaust Tips 70-72

              Notice the lack of plating apparent on the inside.
              Bill Clupper #618

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              • Pat M.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • April 1, 2006
                • 1575

                #8
                Re: Exhaust Tips 70-72

                Those first design tips are VERY hard to find. They seldom appear even on Ebay, where just about any other rare part shows up fairly often.
                I managed to buy one really nice pair on Ebay, and saw one other pair in poor shape. But these were the only two pair I've seen the last 2 years, and I search Ebay for them daily!

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                • Dennis D.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • March 1, 2000
                  • 1071

                  #9
                  Re: Exhaust Tips 70-72

                  Originally posted by William Clupper (618)
                  Notice the lack of plating apparent on the inside.
                  The plating just gets into that chamfered overhang inner top edge back until vertical with the bottom edge


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                  • Thomas H.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • August 31, 2005
                    • 1053

                    #10
                    Re: Exhaust Tips 70-72

                    I didn't realize that there were two designs. I always thought that the ones that came on my car, with the welded seam up the middle of the bottom, were the only design. So I would guess that my car, being a very early '71 (Sept 70 build) has the second design tips........ right?

                    Tom
                    1958, 283/245, White/red - Top Flight, October 2016
                    1960, Black/black, 283/230 4sp
                    1966, Black/Red, 327/350 4sp w/AC
                    1967, 427/390, 4sp, Goodwood Green, Coupe
                    1971 LS5, 4sp, coupe, Bridgehampton Blue
                    2007 Z06, Lemans Blue

                    Newsletter Editor, Delaware Valley Chapter

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                    • Dennis D.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • March 1, 2000
                      • 1071

                      #11
                      Re: Exhaust Tips 70-72

                      Originally posted by Thomas Hoyer (44463)
                      I didn't realize that there were two designs. I always thought that the ones that came on my car, with the welded seam up the middle of the bottom, were the only design. So I would guess that my car, being a very early '71 (Sept 70 build) has the second design tips........ right?

                      Tom
                      serial #14,000(70)-16,000(71) is the running change

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                      • Thomas H.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • August 31, 2005
                        • 1053

                        #12
                        Re: Exhaust Tips 70-72

                        Dennis,

                        These are the ones from my car. The serial number is 1632, early Sept 70 build. Are they not correct (meaning original) for the car?

                        1958, 283/245, White/red - Top Flight, October 2016
                        1960, Black/black, 283/230 4sp
                        1966, Black/Red, 327/350 4sp w/AC
                        1967, 427/390, 4sp, Goodwood Green, Coupe
                        1971 LS5, 4sp, coupe, Bridgehampton Blue
                        2007 Z06, Lemans Blue

                        Newsletter Editor, Delaware Valley Chapter

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                        • Dennis D.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • March 1, 2000
                          • 1071

                          #13
                          Re: Exhaust Tips 70-72

                          Using the good old TIM JG, they would be correct originals for your serial number, as well as correct right through the 72 production

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                          • Thomas H.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • August 31, 2005
                            • 1053

                            #14
                            Re: Exhaust Tips 70-72

                            Originally posted by Dennis Delpome (33752)
                            Using the good old TIM JG, they would be correct originals for your serial number, as well as correct right through the 72 production
                            Dennis,

                            I was planning on pulling out the TIM JG as soon as I got home to refresh my memory, but you beat me to it!

                            Thanks
                            Tom
                            1958, 283/245, White/red - Top Flight, October 2016
                            1960, Black/black, 283/230 4sp
                            1966, Black/Red, 327/350 4sp w/AC
                            1967, 427/390, 4sp, Goodwood Green, Coupe
                            1971 LS5, 4sp, coupe, Bridgehampton Blue
                            2007 Z06, Lemans Blue

                            Newsletter Editor, Delaware Valley Chapter

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                            • Bill L.
                              Expired
                              • February 1, 2004
                              • 1403

                              #15
                              Re: Exhaust Tips 70-72

                              Well I have the original tips from my June 70 vert. and yes they are impossible to find. Problem is the previous owner welded the exhaust to them.

                              Does anyone know of a person that restores the tips other than just plating. What I was thinking is trying to remove the original inlets with a combination of cutting and grinding. Then I would try and fabricate new inlets per originals and weld the new inlets to the tips before having them plated. Maybe make up some type of jig based on another original pair to align the inlet correctly to the tip.

                              If these tips were not so hard to find I would just replace them. Although it is a real challenge to save them.

                              Any thoughts? Anyone had the same problem?


                              Thanks,



                              Bill

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