Paint Judging?

[Erv M.]

Re: Paint Judging?

Anthony,

I am curious of $ you had to spend to make it 100% correct and if you painted it yourself or a shop. If you sent it to a shop would you please refer them to me. I am in the dilema to paint or leave my car the way it is and just be satisfied with a 2nd flight car.

[Joel F.]

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Erv,

Has your car been judged and if so, how did the paint score?

[Erv M.]

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I had my car judged last in October of 2007. Scored 4,124 points add the driving points and received a 92.3%

Here is the killer; wrong color of paint. A beautiful car but wrong color. So for Body Color received a 85 point deduct and for Body Paint 45 point deduct for originality and 40 point deduct for condition. In total lost 170 points, tough to get a Top Flight with the wrong color.

So I am in the dilema to paint or be satisfied with what I have.

[Steven B.]

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Roy and John, thanks for explaining and clarifying. The contributions are appreciated.

Steve

[Kenneth H.]

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Guys, I'm a rank novice when it comes to paint. It seems like, according to the above, that if your vette is painted with a base coat/clear coat application, then you stand to loose a substantial number of points when judged. But if you are preparing a vette for judging and it needs new paint, what other options are there today? And how are any other options besides 2 stage paint treated by the judges? Also, I have a 1970 originally painted in Laguna Gray, which is listed as "poly". How does that differ form the laquer paints used that year?

Thanks,

Ken

[Tony S.]

Re: Paint Judging?

Anthony,

I am curious of $ you had to spend to make it 100% correct and if you painted it yourself or a shop. If you sent it to a shop would you please refer them to me. I am in the dilema to paint or leave my car the way it is and just be satisfied with a 2nd flight car.

Erv. I hired Mark Gordon at Mark's Fiberglass to paint my car body. Mark is located in suburban Kansas City. Mark and I studied Tom Ames' NCRS paint CD several times, we talked with Tom and other paint judges and looked at the diagnostics for what judges look for. (BTW, Tom Ames was the judge that judged my paint and body at Waco). Mark practiced on test panels for six months until he finally got it right. Then he painted my car body. Most of Mark's work is body and paint work on Corvettes. I highly recommend him. His tele no. is 913/449-3439.

Best,
Tony

[Michael W.]

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Guys, I'm a rank novice when it comes to paint. It seems like, according to the above, that if your vette is painted with a base coat/clear coat application, then you stand to loose a substantial number of points when judged.

The key is not what it was painted with but what it LOOKS like it was painted with. If it looks like lacquer, then the actual paint type used is irrelevant.

[Greg T.]

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I can second Tonys recommendation of Marks Fiberglass. I have seen his NCRS spec paint jobs and they are excellent for judging. I chose to have the standard BC CC paint job because frankly I dont want to spend the money for a paint job that looks like the factory finish (I'm trying to be nice). My car came out shiny and beautiful, I'll take the point hit .It will also save me from explaining to normal people why my new paint job is so dull and doesn't even cover the whole body :-)

[Michael H.]

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It will also save me from explaining to normal people why my new paint job is so dull and doesn't even cover the whole body :-)

Normal people? I guess we are a little wacky, huh? Well, some of us anyway.

[Patrick H.]

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Guys, I'm a rank novice when it comes to paint. It seems like, according to the above, that if your vette is painted with a base coat/clear coat application, then you stand to loose a substantial number of points when judged.

Thanks,

Ken

Ken,

A friend of mine did his Solid Axle car in BC/CC and lost 6-9 points in each judging event. I believe his car received 99.2% in its final Duntov judging this year. So, if done right, I wouldn't ever call 9 points "substantial."
The 9 points is the category for "looks like lacquer but is over-restored."
It does look close, and I'm impressed with the paint job.

Patrick

[Pat M.]

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It will also save me from explaining to normal people why my new paint job is so dull and doesn't even cover the whole body :-)

My car is painted with lacquer, and, according to judges, has about the correct amount of orange peel and shininess to it. Yet I think it looks pretty darn good, and I've yet to hear any "normal people" criticize it. I strongly believe you can achieve a "win-win" with a correct paint job.

[Steven B.]

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Normal people? I guess we are a little wacky, huh? Well, some of us anyway.

I think we are all more than a "little wacky". Most do not understand a bunch of folks blogging 24 hours a day about the correct wing nut for an air cleaner, get excited about a non-driveable barn find needing everything but with only 24,000 miles and original parts, or how to duplicate factory paint on door hinges, etc. Personally, I get very excited, but my wife looks at me like I need to lay on a couch and talk about my problems---- What problems??????

[Kent P.]

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hi..all........i am restoring a 65 convertible ( silver pearl)..and mark gordon from merriam painted my car also..bc/cc...he did the same great job on my car as tony's....to me silver is a hard color to paint...but mark has it looking like it left the assy. line in 65....thanks kent