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  • Ron N.
    Expired
    • August 18, 2008
    • 243

    Judging Questions

    I had my 67 judged at Waco last month. I was a terrific experience for me being new NCRS member. I was fortunate that my 67 (purchased new) was able to achieve Top Flight (96.6 - helped by the bonus for driving from Houston).






  • Tony S.
    NCRS Vice President, Director Region VII & 10
    • April 30, 1981
    • 969

    #2
    Re: Judging Questions

    Try Long Island Corvette Supply.
    Region VII Director (serving members in Arkansas, Kansas, Louisiana, Missouri, Oklahoma and Texas).
    Original member of the Kansas City Chapter, est'd 07/11/1982.
    Member: 1965 and 1966 National Judging Teams
    Judging Chairman--Kansas City Chapter.
    Co-Editor of the 1965 TIM and JG, 6th and 7th editions.

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    • Reba W.
      Very Frequent User
      • June 30, 1985
      • 932

      #3
      Re: Judging Questions

      By chance is your car an early one? Quite often we find early models in a year are using left-over items if they are still the same in most detail.

      Sometimes very late cars may have something that is scheduled to appear on the next year, but the factory has run out of what should be on the car. I have seen this quite often with carpets, knobs and turn signal levers.

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      • Ron N.
        Expired
        • August 18, 2008
        • 243

        #4
        Re: Judging Questions

        Reba, not too early. Mine was built April 67.

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        • John H.
          Beyond Control Poster
          • December 1, 1997
          • 16513

          #5
          Re: Judging Questions

          Originally posted by Ron Napoliello (49346)
          I asked the question to understand if the hood mold did not change from 66 to 67 and if all 67 SB hoods had the holes.
          Ron -

          The '66 hood had the holes in the outer panel for the emblem, and the access holes in the inner panel to drive the nuts. For '67, the holes in the outer panel were no longer drilled, but the access holes in the inner panel were formed in the mold, and were left there rather than spend money to revise the mold.

          The "YA" bail tag is easy - make it in Word on the computer, and print it on label paper.

          No decals on a small-block shroud.

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          • Michael W.
            Expired
            • April 1, 1997
            • 4290

            #6
            Re: Judging Questions

            I thought that this was proven to be an unfounded myth.

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            • Terry M.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • September 30, 1980
              • 15573

              #7
              Re: Judging Questions

              I thought Roy B started that rumor, just like the "mitting" story.
              Terry

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              • Ron N.
                Expired
                • August 18, 2008
                • 243

                #8
                Re: Judging Questions

                Michael / Terry, it came from Noland Adams - Corvette Restoration & Technical Guide - Vol.2 1963 - 1967.

                -no sign of the lower hood support mount on right inner fender panel
                -originals hoods did not have mounting plate provisions on the right side
                -replacement hoods have a metal plated riveted behind a depressed area on the right side of the hood

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                • Ron N.
                  Expired
                  • August 18, 2008
                  • 243

                  #9
                  Re: Judging Questions

                  Thanks John, do you know of any documentation of that decision/exception? The judging team was considered my hood as a non-original replacement until the Judging Chairman got involved.

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                  • John H.
                    Expired
                    • May 31, 2002
                    • 169

                    #10
                    Re: Judging Questions

                    I am having a brain fade. I can't seem to start a NEW posting question.
                    Therefore I will post my question here.
                    I had my 72 star judged inSt.Louis 2008 Convention. It did just as I
                    expected. I delayed a serious operation so I could attend this judging
                    of my car. Original owner. I wasn't feeling al that great but I am glad
                    I made the trip with the help of fellow NCRS members.
                    I have kept a DIARY of every repair on the car since new, every oil change, any repair whatso ever. When I had my car judged I made it
                    a point to try and get each judges names, since star judging doesn't
                    return any documentation. I strongly feel this name/judges is a very
                    important piece of my car's history. Little did I know that wekend
                    how true this would be. Initialy it was stated that the exterior scored
                    about 96 percent, however I was initially told the judges felt the car
                    was repainted more than 25 percent. I was able to discuss in detail with
                    the team leader and the decision was handled rather well.
                    I happen to have my diary where I was able to document a wheel well
                    repair on Sept.7, 1977, cost $164 dollars. I politely explained I couldn't
                    repaint 25% of the car for $164.
                    The judges names I only got partially: Richard Vaughn, Steren, and
                    Steffenson. These may all posibly misspelled.
                    I AM TRYING TO CONTACT THESE JUDGES TO HEAR THEIR explanation
                    as to the paint issue. I need NCRS HELP TO KEP THIS HISTORY ALIVE.
                    I have the depest respect for those members who take the time and
                    energy to judge cars. I ONLY WANT TO GET THE FACTS FOR HISTORICAL
                    REASONS. THIS CAR DESERVES it's story to be told.
                    I know my team leader will posibly help, but I wanted members imput.

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                    • John H.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • December 1, 1997
                      • 16513

                      #11
                      Re: Judging Questions

                      Originally posted by Ron Napoliello (49346)
                      Thanks John, do you know of any documentation of that decision/exception? The judging team was considered my hood as a non-original replacement until the Judging Chairman got involved.
                      Most experienced '67 judges are aware of the presence of the access holes in the inner panel on '67 hoods.

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                      • Michael W.
                        Expired
                        • April 1, 1997
                        • 4290

                        #12
                        Re: Judging Questions

                        Originally posted by John O'Haire (38127)
                        I am having a brain fade. I can't seem to start a NEW posting question.
                        Got to the index page, click on 'new thread' in the upper left.

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                        • Mike M.
                          Director Region V
                          • August 31, 1994
                          • 1464

                          #13
                          Re: Judging Questions

                          Right, John, best to start by contacting the team leader.
                          HaND

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                          • James F.
                            Expired
                            • April 1, 2002
                            • 43

                            #14
                            Re: Judging Questions

                            Ron,
                            To get back to your question on the `67 hood. I also have an April `67 small block car. It has the same holes in the hood. Initially the hood was thought to have been changed, however in Regional judging the team leader determined it was believed to be original to my car. No points were lost.

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                            • Ron N.
                              Expired
                              • August 18, 2008
                              • 243

                              #15
                              Re: Judging Questions

                              Thanks James. I had the same experience at the recent Waco Regional. The judging team leader referred the hooh issue to the Judging Chairman who ruled the hood to be original / no deductions.

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