Experimental FI distributor

[Bruce B.]

Can anyone identify or provide info on this fuel injection distributor?
I have attached some pictures.
The vacuum advance is marked "MS 210 16".
The point plate is marked 2769047 with Delco Remy logo.
The top casting is embossed p.n. 1961253.
The lower shaft housing appears to be machined, not cast.
The top plate with the advance weights is marked 724 CCW.
Thanks,
Bruce B.

[William C.]

Re: Experimental FI distributor

looks like a '915 distributor, vac advance with no tach drive, used on 250-275hp hydraulic lifter engines. No Idea of why the EX unless it came out of Delco Remy labs or Detroit after an engineering experimant of one kind or another.

[Bruce B.]

Re: Experimental FI distributor

Bill,
Thanks for the reply.
Actually it does have a tach drive, which is shown in the attached photo.
As you can see some parts have been taken off the distributor.
Bruce B.

[John D.]

Re: Experimental FI distributor

Bruce, Very unique distributor. The distr cam #724 is typical of 63 FI.
The point plate is a very common 63 to 65 FI and numerous carb distributors.
What is the number on the top of the main shaft-the football number?
The bottom case should have an embossed number on it.

The top housing for a 63 to 65 is 1961252 which is the part number. So the casting number on yours is one digit higher which once again makes it correct for 63 to 65.

I am going to guess it's a prototype 63 FI distributor. Swap out the funky tag and the VA and you may have yourself a good usable 63 distributor. Nice find. John


The vac. advance is another unknown. You of course know a 63 carb-FI distr used a 201 not a 210

[Timothy B.]

Re: Experimental FI distributor

autocam part # looked like #54 which is the same as my 300 HP car. 724 CCW is the same also.

[Michael H.]

Re: Experimental FI distributor

Can anyone identify or provide info on this fuel injection distributor?

I have a Delco F.I. dist I.D. plate that is very similar. Model X-23358, a few hundred later than yours.
These were often special units used for Delco in house testing or that were sent to some of the race teams in the early 60's.
The unit that I have is ser# 977-G1. There is also a "212 A" hand engraved in the lower portion.

Just found it.... This one is from a car that was owned/raced by Ralph Salyer, the 63 SCCA central division champion. He raced a new 63 in the 63 season and had a LOT of help from GM and Delco.

[Bruce B.]

Re: Experimental FI distributor

Thanks to everyone for your input.

The football is stamped 54 and the weights are stamped 37.
The bottom casting (the gearbox) has no typical part number but is embossed with a "2" and an "L" in a octagon. The shaft below the oil drain hole right below where the dist sits on the intake appears to be machined, not cast.
Everything seems to indicate that it is an early 63 prototype of some sort. It would be interesting to find a written record of it.
The vacuum advance #210 seems to be an unknown at this time.
There is also a paper tag on it which reads "61-63 FI dist car 194/9", what that means I am not sure.
Thanks,
Your input is appreciated.

[Wayne M.]

Re: Experimental FI distributor

The vacuum advance #210 seems to be an unknown at this time.

The 1116210 vac advance, per se, has been around a long time. The first appearance I see in my Delco catalogs is on distr. 1110291, and continues intermittently up to 1112861 [this catalog ends in Jan 1976 with distr. # 1112999].

It's advance curve is quite similar to 1116201, except advance starts 7 to 9" Hg (201) vs. 6 to 8" with the 210.

Other specs: " Hg for max adv: 15-16 (201) vs. 14.5-16 (210)
Max distrib adv. 8 [= 16 crank degreees] (201) versus 8.5 (= 17 crank) for the 210.

[Monte M.]

Re: Experimental FI distributor

Bruce, I have the same distributor as you do. The casting number is 1961253, and the plate is 2769047. The interesting part is that my distributor came with a prototype unit. I have prototype unit 7017375, serial no. "20". Not 1020, but number 20. It has a very different plunum that was sand cast and has the nozzle block recess. Even the casting number is something I have never seen before. My point is that you may have something very rare. I am just learning about this prototype unit I have as I just bought it two days ago. It is your classic story of "It was taken off of the car and sat on this shelf in 1967" Where I found it the other day. You can email direct if you like and I can relay any information I have and there is a couple of other things I would like to compare.
Thanks
Monte