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  • Dale S.
    Expired
    • November 12, 2007
    • 1224

    I.C.E. "In Case of Emergency"

    This is off subject, but someone sent me an email about this. In case of an accident, there is usually a cell phone there with a 100 numbers in it. Who does the para medics or hospital staff call? They suggest that you list a I.C.E. #!, #2 etc. for an emergency numbers in your cell phone. This is going around the emergency field. Sounds good to me. Dale
  • Martin N.
    Expired
    • July 30, 2007
    • 594

    #2
    Re: I.C.E. "In Case of Emergency"

    DALE-

    Here in Illinois (at least where I'm at) the local cell phone stores tell you about having a listing in your cell phone directory labeled "I.C.E." for IF you would ever be put in that type of situation. (GOD forbid).

    Marty

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    • Donald T.
      Expired
      • September 30, 2002
      • 1319

      #3
      Re: I.C.E. "In Case of Emergency"

      I'm a little skeptical. I've worked in the wireless industry for many years and this is not something that we are actively promoting. Paramedics are not likely to check your wireless phone in an emergency situation. If you are unable to speak for yourself, they are going to focus on emergency care rather than finding someone on your phone to call. The cell phone may not be on your person at the time of the emergency. In an accident, the cell phone may be lost or broken. With all of the different wireless operating systems, finding contact information may be difficult.

      The best thing to do is to have a medical alert bracelet if there is important medical information that emergency workers need to be aware of. As far as contact information, you would be better off to keep that contact information with your ID in your wallet, where hospital workers are more likely to find it.

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      • Martin N.
        Expired
        • July 30, 2007
        • 594

        #4
        Re: I.C.E. "In Case of Emergency"

        DON-

        Or if you have a GM car with "ON STAR"......or are their commercials misleading?

        Marty

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        • Donald T.
          Expired
          • September 30, 2002
          • 1319

          #5
          Re: I.C.E. "In Case of Emergency"

          Originally posted by Martin Novak (47651)
          DON-

          Or if you have a GM car with "ON STAR"......or are their commercials misleading?

          Marty
          I don't have any personal experience with On Star, but looks like a great service. Of course it won't help if you aren't in the car at the time of the medical emergency. I would think a note by your ID is more likely to be of use to the hospital staff. Perhaps someone who works in the medical field will chime in as to what they look for.

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          • Dale S.
            Expired
            • November 12, 2007
            • 1224

            #6
            Re: I.C.E. "In Case of Emergency"

            I spoke with a para medic here and he said it was for contacting the family not for medical advise. My son in Calif. said he and everyone he knew out there had done it several years ago (Orange county). I live in New Mexico so I am the last to hear. I put it in my phone, it sure can not hurt. Dale

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            • Donald T.
              Expired
              • September 30, 2002
              • 1319

              #7
              Re: I.C.E. "In Case of Emergency"

              Originally posted by Dale Schafer (48165)
              I spoke with a para medic here and he said it was for contacting the family not for medical advise. My son in Calif. said he and everyone he knew out there had done it several years ago (Orange county). I live in New Mexico so I am the last to hear. I put it in my phone, it sure can not hurt. Dale

              Good point. Sure can't hurt. Hopefully it will never have to be used!

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              • John D.
                Very Frequent User
                • June 30, 1991
                • 874

                #8
                Re: I.C.E. "In Case of Emergency"

                Originally posted by Martin Novak (47651)
                DON-

                Or if you have a GM car with "ON STAR"......or are their commercials misleading?

                Marty
                Nope it's not misleading by any means. I had an accident last week.... got hit hard in the back bumper at a light. There was no airbag deployment, but I hit the red emergency button and they got the police there quickly.

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                • Edward B.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • January 1, 1988
                  • 537

                  #9
                  Re: I.C.E. "In Case of Emergency"

                  Dale is correct, "ICE" is not designed to primarily access medical information, but rather to make it easier to contact family members, POSSLQs, interested parties, etc. It is a particularly useful feature when dealing with children who may be unable to relate contact information about family members. You would be absolutely amazed by the young age at which some start to carry cell phones and by how many numbers appear in their speed dials. "ICE" is not a cure for all problems, but it is another avenue of assistance for emergency responders to utilize.

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                  • Ned T.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • December 29, 2008
                    • 188

                    #10
                    Re: I.C.E. "In Case of Emergency"

                    My son is a volunteer fireman and EMT here in Pittsburgh, and they are told to look on a cell phone for I.C.E. incase someone doesnt have I.D. i put it on my cell phone, just in case.

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                    • Ridge K.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • May 31, 2006
                      • 1018

                      #11
                      Re: I.C.E. "In Case of Emergency"

                      I retired in February of 2005, after 29 years with a municipal fire department. The department had over 50 paramedics on staff, and worked closely with the city's contract ambulance service, that had at minimum of one paramedic (and one EMT, or second paramedic) on every ambulance.
                      I've never seen a paramedic look at an adult's cell phone for contact information. Never, ever. Younger children, maybe.
                      Cell phone calls initiated by paramedics at accident scenes (on their own phones), are to the physician on call at the nearest emergency room of local hospitals. Only called in life threatening cases, for approval of drug administration, etc. Contacting family members is a distant "second" in cases where life is at risk.
                      A card in one's wallet, or purse, would be the most valuable emergency contact source. The wallet is always gotten "in hand", and turned over to ER workers. Ridge.
                      Good carburetion is fuelish hot air . . .

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                      • Ridge K.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • May 31, 2006
                        • 1018

                        #12
                        Re: I.C.E. "In Case of Emergency"

                        [quote=Dave Perry (19643);388143]You guys are missing the point. It's not for medical information about the patient, etc. It is strictly a 'logical' place to look for contact information, "in case of an emergency". You've been transported to an emergency room. Has the family been contacted? Hmmm. They look in the phone book, under ICE. Simple. Put the number for your preferred first to be contacted there. I'm a Californian. Yes, we started hearing about this at least 5 years ago.[/quote]

                        Dave, it sounds like you Californians should teach the rest of us around the country. It might help us poor ole, dumb Okies.
                        Good carburetion is fuelish hot air . . .

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                        • Jim D.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • June 30, 1985
                          • 2882

                          #13
                          Re: I.C.E. "In Case of Emergency"

                          I'm starting my 30th year in the fire service and have never heard of this. There is a federal act called Hipaa (Health Insurance Portabilty and Accountability Act) that prevents emergency care workers from giving out any info. without written permission. Basically that means you can't call/contact anyone without the patients permission. When I was admitted to the hospital for surgery, I had to sign a document allowing them to give info. to my wife (she was sitting right next to me) or they couldn't even acknowledge that I was there.

                          Jim

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                          • Terry M.
                            Beyond Control Poster
                            • September 30, 1980
                            • 15573

                            #14
                            Re: I.C.E. "In Case of Emergency"

                            Yes, times are surely different now days.

                            At work this week we had an employee who failed to respond to either his cell or two-way radio. We had to get the IT people to back door into his laptop to get the GPS to tell us where he was at. After four hours we sent the local police to where he was. They found him in the company truck on the side of the road -- unresponsive. After all that effort we don't know what the problem is. He is in the hospital -- that is all we know. And we probably saved his life, but they can't tell us what his problem was.
                            Terry

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                            • Dale S.
                              Expired
                              • November 12, 2007
                              • 1224

                              #15
                              Re: I.C.E. "In Case of Emergency"

                              I only posted this to maybe help someone later, not to start fight. Some pretty strong things were posted. Lets all take a deep breath and Happy New Year. Dale

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